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Why The Left Hates It When You Point Out We’re ‘A Republic, Not A Democracy’
The Federalist ^ | 06/17/24 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 06/17/2024 8:46:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

For as long as I can remember, the left has been sneering at anyone who points out that the United States is a republic, not a democracy. They find the notion almost as unsophisticated and fascistic as flying a revolutionary-era flag.

Even some people I admire dismiss the democracy/republic debate as a semantic distraction. They shouldn’t.

The other day, CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan tried to make Trump fans who repeat this factual contention look like a bunch of dumb, lockstepping authoritarians. To explain the problem, CNN even recruited “democracy” expert Anne Applebaum, who noted that, “America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy … the word ‘democracy’ and the word ‘republic’ have often been used interchangeably. There isn’t a meaningful difference between them …”

Sure there is.

Ask the contemporary leftists who target virtually every protection we have against mob rule in the name of “democracy” — attacking the Supreme Court, the Electoral College, federalism, the filibuster, the Senate, and even the existence of states. They understand the difference, even if just intuitively.

Ask leftists who treat the “popular vote,” not as a wishcasting cope, but as means of legitimizing presidential elections. Those who want a few big states ruling the nation via a direct federal democracy are not interested in an American “republic.”

Blunting the federal government’s power over states and the state’s power over individuals is an indispensable way to ensure a diverse people in a huge nation can govern themselves and live freely. The “save democracy” types who refer to these long-standing federalist institutions as “minority rule” do not view “democracy” and a constitutional republic as interchangeable concepts.

Neither do smaller blue-state governors who sign a national vote compact that not only dilutes their state’s power but circumvents the Constitution. They love a direct democracy. A constitutional republic? Not so much.

When writers at The Atlantic, where Applebaum is a contributor, talk about “The Democrats’ Last Chance to Save Democracy,” they aren’t lamenting Biden’s unprecedented executive abuse, but the “democratic deficits in the Senate and the Electoral College” — as if these institutions weren’t specifically instituted to diffuse centralized control. They know the difference.

Democrats who want to “expand” the Supreme Court for failing to follow democratic trends, don’t care about the “republic.” After all, many of the high court’s most historic decisions, including Dred Scott and Plessy, cut the legs out from under “democracy.”

Or take the so-called moderate Democrats who want to get rid of the filibuster or use the slimmest of fleeting majorities to shove through massive, generational federal “reforms” without any national consensus — Obamacare or The Deficit Reduction Act [sic]. They’re aware that “reforms” will overturn hundreds of state and local laws. They want local minorities subordinate to the whims and vagaries of national majorities.

Then again, the more “democracy” we have, the more demagoguery thrives. Of course they’re fans.

As it turns out, according to CNN a number of Trump supporters also understand the distinction even if they are unable to articulate it in poli-scientific terms. 

Then again, if O’Sullivan wants to dunk on them, maybe he should take a civics refresher himself.  “There is, of course, a legitimate debate to be had on what form of democracy we have here in the United States — direct democracy, representative democracy, in fact, constitutional republic, which you heard people mentioned in that piece, that is a form of democracy,” the CNN host explained.

There is, “of course,” zero “legitimate debate discussion” to be had over whether we are a “direct democracy.” Not today, nor ever. “Democracy” isn’t even mentioned anywhere in any founding document, much less a direct one. None of the framers entertained any notions about majoritarianism or federal power that would even loosely comport the ones now embraced by the left.

People will often tell me that, sure, we might be a republic, but we also have “democratic institutions.” Of course we do. We also have numerous nondemocratic institutions. The Bill of Rights, for instance, is largely concerned with protecting individuals from state and the mob. The insistence that we only use “democracy” is meant to corrode the importance and acceptance of those countermajoritarian rules and traditions.

“[F]or centuries,” insists O’Sullivan (italics mine), “America has celebrated its democracy,” before playing clips of Ronald Reagan and others praising the notion of “democracy.”

Indeed, the word “democracy” — from “demos,” the people — has been used as a shorthand for self-rule since before Pericles. In the past, we’ve used it to convey respect for a set of liberal ideas about liberties and rights, as well as self-determination. I’m sure I’ve used it in that way, too. Most Americans probably comprehend the notion of “democracy” in the same, vague context.

These days, though, a bunch of illiberal progressives (and others) have taken universal notions that once fell under the umbrella of “democracy” and cynically distorted them to champion a hypermajoritarian outlook.  It’s no accident the people who demand you call us a “democracy” also champion the idea that 50.1 percent of the country should be empowered to lord over the economic, religious, cultural, and political decisions of 49.9 percent.

It’s the point. 


David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnist, a Happy Warrior columnist at National Review, and author of five books—the most recent, Eurotrash: Why America Must Reject the Failed Ideas of a Dying Continent.


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1 posted on 06/17/2024 8:46:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the level of ruling class to win the battle of democracy.

— Communist Manifesto, chapter 2

What will be the course of this revolution? Above all, it will establish a democratic constitution, and through this, the direct or indirect dominance of the proletariat. …

— The Principles of Communism

… The thesis of the state socialist is that no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the state may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory.

Applied in a democratic state, such doctrine sounds radical, but not revolutionary. It is only an acceptance of the extremest logical conclusions deducible from democratic principles long ago received as respectable. For it is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals. …

— Woodrow Wilson, Socialism and Democracy, 1887
This is why the left loves the word “democracy” so much.
2 posted on 06/17/2024 8:54:31 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals

Unless the men as individuals are well-supplied with long-distance voting pellets.

3 posted on 06/17/2024 8:57:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: kiryandil

That is one aspect I have no doubt Wilson hated.


4 posted on 06/17/2024 9:03:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is because most of them don’t understand why the Founders abhorred “Democracy”.

And the ones who do have a clue are all about power and tyranny.


5 posted on 06/17/2024 9:07:14 PM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A lynch mob is a democracy a constitutional Republic
can have democratic traditions & institutions but it is still a republic!


6 posted on 06/17/2024 9:07:47 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & subvertion )
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To: Olog-hai
"Democracy is the word with which you must lead them by the nose."

-Screwtape Proposes a Toast

7 posted on 06/17/2024 9:07:59 PM PDT by cockroach_magoo (No one is above the law, but some are more above the law than others.)
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To: SeekAndFind
People are idiots. A republic IS a form of democracy. Don't people learn anything on school anymore?
8 posted on 06/17/2024 9:13:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Proof by assertion.

Was Woodrow Wilson correct when he declared socialism and democracy to be “one and the same”, then?


9 posted on 06/17/2024 9:17:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind

Excellent article; thanks for posting!


10 posted on 06/17/2024 9:19:02 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: SeekAndFind

Because deception is the name of the game for them. They hate the truth because it never works in their favor. The only way they can convince people to vote for them is to lie.


11 posted on 06/17/2024 9:20:51 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Olog-hai
It's not prof by assertion. Do you have a dictionary?

Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

Find me any reputable dictionary, and provide the definition of democracy.

12 posted on 06/17/2024 9:26:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Olog-hai

Can you provide a citation for the quote?


13 posted on 06/17/2024 9:26:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

Without the Electoral College and the United States Senate, at least five of the original 13 states would never have ratified the United States Constitution.

In other words, the United States of America would not exist.


14 posted on 06/17/2024 9:27:19 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: nickcarraway
Citing the dictionary is argumentum ad verecundiam.
15 posted on 06/17/2024 9:28:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: nickcarraway

Sure. See post #2.

It would not make sense if, should socialism and democracy actually be one and the same, that republicanism be one and the same with those.


16 posted on 06/17/2024 9:29:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

So, you aren’t actually arguing that a republic is not a democracy?


17 posted on 06/17/2024 9:30:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.


18 posted on 06/17/2024 9:31:04 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (✡️✝️🔯)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m not arguing anything. You’re the one who made the assertion about “republic” and “democracy” being identical.

As far as the terms can self define, “republic” (res publica) refers to the people being represented with inbuilt checks and balances on power and “democracy” (demokratia) refers to people wielding political power in whatever form they please; this latter implies tyranny of the majority.


19 posted on 06/17/2024 9:36:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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