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SCOTUS opinions -- Friday June 14, 2024
Scotusblog ^ | 6/14/24 | Amy Howe

Posted on 06/14/2024 6:10:11 AM PDT by CFW

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To: Sidebar Moderator

That’s what I was thinking sidebar I think they where willing to grant limited immunity but it seems like after what Alvin Bragg pulled they are going with an opinion that gives the President more latitude. As somehow this guy made himself FEC commissioner as well.


61 posted on 06/14/2024 9:21:40 AM PDT by Lod881019
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To: CFW

A 3rd grader could have told them it DID NOT.


62 posted on 06/14/2024 10:04:40 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Stravinsky

SOMEONE NEEDED TO TAKE SOTOMAYER TO A GUN RANGE & DEMONSTRATE the bump stock for her.


63 posted on 06/14/2024 10:09:26 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: DesertRhino
The most important case of all is Trump’s, and nothing.

I'd guess they will release the most controversial opinions the last day as they leave town.

64 posted on 06/14/2024 10:19:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ by)
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To: Jim Noble

I remember that about Roberts last minute thing. Good memory.


65 posted on 06/14/2024 11:05:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Sidebar Moderator
It’s a great sign that the immunity decision wasn’t released on President Trump’s birthday ;-) It could only mean it a huge win for him, and for our country.

Your words to God’s ears.

66 posted on 06/14/2024 11:11:23 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (BOYCOTT Anheuser Busch, the NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR & Faux Snooze! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper! )
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To: DesertRhino
"Are they really all getting decided the night before and they hand them out as they finish them?"

It's not the deciding that takes time. The decisions have to be written. They are complex documents and go through revisions.

67 posted on 06/14/2024 11:47:02 AM PDT by mlo
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To: DesertRhino

They all vote on the final draft, so, even after the CJ assigns the opinion, and drafts are circulated, things can change.


68 posted on 06/14/2024 11:57:22 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: M. Thatcher
As I've written here, the problem I have with defining what is an "official" act is that it can often be triggered by external events outside the control of the President. My example of President Bush reading a storybook to schoolchildren when 9/11 happened is one such case.

This is the nature of being the sole elected official of the executive branch. The President can't "punch a timeclock" every time he starts doing an "official" act and then punch out when he's done with that act. Then next whisper in his ear might be a national emergency, whether he's giving a speech on the Mall or having dinner with donors.

Rahm Emanuel famously told Obama to "never let a crisis go to waste." What's going to happen when the Democrats and the LAAP-dog media figure out how create a crisis by entrapping the President into "non-core" acts and then begin harassing him over his liabilities due to those acts?

I would like to see SCOTUS close that door forever by declaring the President's existence in office as being "core" to the job.

-PJ

69 posted on 06/14/2024 12:17:40 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

;-)


70 posted on 06/14/2024 12:47:19 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Lod881019

Exactly right.


71 posted on 06/14/2024 12:48:03 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Lod881019

That’s why I’ve always maintained that Trump’s evidence as for the need for broad immunity is — Alvin Bragg.


72 posted on 06/14/2024 12:50:09 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: M. Thatcher

I would have agreed with you — until Bragg himself made the case for broad immunity.


73 posted on 06/14/2024 12:51:49 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

You just can’t have 2,500 DAs filing charges against ex-presidents. Think of the potential for extortion.


74 posted on 06/14/2024 12:53:50 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Political Junkie Too
I would like to see SCOTUS close that door forever by declaring the President's existence in office as being "core" to the job.

Yes. I'm saying the Supremes will likely rule that the question is not ripe for them YET.

75 posted on 06/14/2024 1:10:19 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
If SCOTUS rules that immunity is not ripe yet, then that means that Jack Smith can proceed with his J6 prosecution of Trump in DC.

He will jump on that ASAP given that Cannon in Florida is stymying Smith in the documents case.

-PJ

76 posted on 06/14/2024 1:15:38 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Sidebar Moderator
I would have agreed with you — until Bragg himself made the case for broad immunity.

The Supremes are not ruling on Bragg. They will issue a narrow ruling on process at this point, eating up the clock with the trial court being forced to flesh out the immunity arguments on the record. THEN the appeal will come back to SCOTUS.

This is excellent. Every legal "expert" dismissed Trump's position that he had immunity out of hand. But the Supremes are forcing courts to take Trump's arguments utterly seriously.

77 posted on 06/14/2024 1:15:56 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Political Junkie Too
I would like to see SCOTUS close that door forever by declaring the President's existence in office as being "core" to the job.

Yes. I'm saying the Supremes will likely rule that the question is not ripe for them YET.

78 posted on 06/14/2024 1:16:22 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher
Ha! You posted that to me six minutes ago!

Another point...

The window of opportunity that SCOTUS has is the impeachment clause "...but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law."

If SCOTUS rules that a President has broad immunity in perpetuity for all acts undertaken while President unless impeached by the House and convicted by the Senate, we might see Congress motivated to take impeachment much more seriously.

If Congress really REALLY wants to prosecute a President for something, they must impeach and convict him first, otherwise he has lifetime immunity for all acts undertaken while President, just as Congress has immunity for all acts undertaken while on the floor of their chamber, and when traveling to and from Congress. Impeachment in the House must lay out all the charges that are prosecutable; impeachment and conviction cannot make a President an open target for any prosecution whatsoever when removed from office.

That's what I would like SCOTUS to rule.

-PJ

79 posted on 06/14/2024 1:32:37 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: CFW
The question in this case is whether a bumpstock (an accessory for a semi-automatic rifle that allows the shooter to rapidly reengage the trigger to fire very quickly) converts the rifle into a machinegun. The court holds that it does not.

Good ruling.

I hope President Trump learns from this and stays in his lane.

80 posted on 06/14/2024 2:24:54 PM PDT by Fury (I )
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