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Trump floats eliminating U.S. income tax and replacing it with tariffs on imports
CNBC ^ | June 13th, 2024 | Emily Wilkins and Kevin Breuninger

Posted on 06/13/2024 5:39:20 PM PDT by shadowlands1960

Key Points

-Donald Trump discussed the idea of imposing an “all tariff policy” that would ultimately enable the U.S. to get rid of the income tax, sources told CNBC.
-He also talked about using tariffs to leverage negotiating power over bad actors, according to another source in the room.
- Trump championed tariffs during his first term in the White House.

Donald Trump on Thursday brought up the idea of imposing an “all tariff policy” that would ultimately enable the U.S. to get rid of the income tax, sources in a private meeting with the Republican presidential candidate told CNBC.

Trump, in the meeting with GOP lawmakers at the Capitol Hill Club in Washington, D.C., also talked about using tariffs to leverage negotiating power over bad actors, according to another source in the room.

The remarks show Trump, who championed tariffs as a foreign policy multi-tool during his first term in office, is considering a drastically more protectionist trade agenda if he defeats President Joe Biden in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 16thamendment; fakenews; frnaysayers; incometax; neverhappen; pipedream; priceincreases; repealthe16th; rumormongering; salestax; tariffs; tds; trump
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To: central_va

To me the 17th amendment is fairly minor compared to the 16th.

I doubt very much the Senators from each state would be much different than what we have now.

For example, do you think the California legislators would elect Senators that differ much from what the people of California elected?

If anything they might be worse.

Compare that to how different things would be if there was no income tax.


141 posted on 06/14/2024 7:21:13 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: shadowlands1960; All

“Trump floats eliminating U.S. income tax and replacing it with tariffs on imports”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

If this idea works out it would not only save America’s economy it would make it thrive to a level never seen before. America would become an economic hyper-power.
Finally, people would not be “income-tax-punished” for working hard. Instead they would be rewarded by keeping their OWN money in their OWN pockets. People will be able to invest again. America’s economy would be on steroids so to speak.

Lastly, no need to pay most of the salaries of the huge IRS-army, which is a big burden on the economy.

Maybe the idea is a dream, but I like it.


142 posted on 06/14/2024 7:23:26 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: shadowlands1960

Sounds OK. How about we do an “Argentina” on the budget and gooberment in general as well. Austerity for a change sounds like a winning plan to me.


143 posted on 06/14/2024 7:34:58 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

When I read Alexis de Tocqueville’s ‘Democracy in America’ as part of an American history survey, I was impressed by the sense the book gave of the energy of Jacksonian America. It was like a throbbing beating heart, always moving, always growing... relentless... men working everywhere, building cities, clearing wilderness... just a sense of endless possibilities. That is what I’d like to get back to - I know we won’t be able to recreate the energy of the young republic but I’d love to regain the sense of the ‘special’ nature of the enterprise. This proposal, I believe, could provide the spark to recreate that.


144 posted on 06/14/2024 7:38:57 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: aquila48

The legislators couldn’t do worse anyway California is a psychopathic example as are any of the hard blue states.

We would certainly have more turnover in senators then we have now. Every legislator and state grandee would see themselves in that office. Coming from the state legislatures would certainly make senators more sensitive too and attune to state issues. You would have fewer examples of senators voting against their state interests to please party interests. And the final and best reason for repealing the 17th Amendment is this amendment upsets the balance of between the states as institutions and the people. It’s the single most republic destroying of the amendments. The amendment was thew basis for the destructive USSC 1964 decision of Reynolds v. Sims which wrecked the state senate & state house power arrangement in the states. Evertt Dirksen warned the nation that the decision would financially devastate states with large urban centers like his state Illinois. It has look at Illinois, New York, California, Pennsylvania, etc.!


145 posted on 06/14/2024 7:45:21 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Sequoyah101

Couldn’t agree more. Javier Milei has been successful at turning back inflation by reducing the size of government and he accomplished it in a short time... obviously a model we should pay attention to.


146 posted on 06/14/2024 7:45:28 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: central_va

Then he should support a targeted and ambitious tax credit for research and innovation like Reagan in 1981. The Reagan-era tax credit set off a boom in investment and technological innovation that paid dividends to the US economy for decades to come. Raising trade barriers generates only small gains in the short run at the expense of substantial losses in the long run and when other countries retaliate even those small gains the barriers generate disappear and are replaced by more substantial deficits.


147 posted on 06/14/2024 7:45:52 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Goodbye IRS!

Replace with "ERS".

If he's serious about this, it's a great way to get a lot of less than enthusiastic folks fully on board.

148 posted on 06/14/2024 7:47:48 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: central_va

Yes, end H1B and deport them all. Can we get Trump to promise this? Last time around he not only increased them but let them stay during COVID when they had clear requirement to leave within 60 days when they were laid off.


149 posted on 06/14/2024 7:58:29 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Build the Wall, Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone.)
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To: Reily

“The amendment was the basis for the destructive USSC 1964 decision of Reynolds v. Sims which wrecked the state senate & state house power arrangement in the states.”

No, the basis for that ruling was the 14th amendment equal protection clause.

” You would have fewer examples of senators voting against their state interests to please party interests.”

I doubt very much there would be much difference. A person’s view of his interests are seen through his world view, ie, his politics.

My key point was, the impact of the 17th is a nit, compared to that of the 16th. Do you agree?


150 posted on 06/14/2024 8:16:34 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

Shoot, Washington doesn’t need any income at all, they can just print up as much as they need. Oh wait, they pretty much do that now. I guess the tax and fee system is more for control than revenue.


151 posted on 06/14/2024 8:33:25 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: aquila48

Completely disagree!
as did Dirksen!


152 posted on 06/14/2024 8:35:59 AM PDT by Reily
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To: HYPOCRACY

“Can just lower it to 0%. Start with a descending flat tax over 5 years.”

Similar to TN’s income tax on investments. When we moved here, that tax was pretty high. Then it was phased out over a few (5, I think) years, descending every year, to zero.

(At least, that’s how I recall it. I could be wrong.)


153 posted on 06/14/2024 8:38:44 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: shadowlands1960

Like it


154 posted on 06/14/2024 8:41:43 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: Reily

Then, you’re both abysmally wrong! 😊


155 posted on 06/14/2024 8:43:07 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: shadowlands1960
This is terrible! There's no way tariffs could support the current budget. Why, we'd have to cut the size of the federal gov

Oh.

Never mind.

156 posted on 06/14/2024 8:44:55 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: shadowlands1960
I'd simply say... "That's ONE Hell of a GOOD IDEA!"


157 posted on 06/14/2024 8:49:42 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: shadowlands1960

A lot like ripping off a band-aid. Gotta be done so get it over with fast.


158 posted on 06/14/2024 8:50:09 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Rlsau1

There is one reason and one reason only why we’re getting away with printing money, and that’s because the world uses the dollar for its reserves - basically it treats it like gold.

That’s starting to change.


159 posted on 06/14/2024 8:54:21 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Dr. Franklin

Correct. The tax code is a tool to favor friends and punish enemies. It is a favorite tool.


160 posted on 06/14/2024 8:58:28 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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