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Texas may need to double power generation over next six years: ERCOT leader
NBC 5 DFW ^ | June 12, 2024 | Phil Prazan

Posted on 06/13/2024 6:27:31 AM PDT by fwdude

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To: fwdude

EVs and data centers.


21 posted on 06/13/2024 7:51:15 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: fwdude

Nuclear is the answer.


22 posted on 06/13/2024 7:55:07 AM PDT by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: fwdude

There are several reasons. 1) large population increase from other states and legal and illegal immigration, 2) rapid increase in server farms, 3) large increase in electric vehicles, 4) shuttering coal fired plants and 5) not building enough natural gas or nuclear plants. What we should have done is to force wind and solar providers to guarantee a daily minimum power generation which would have forced them to secure nat gas peaker plants to kick in when wind and solar power generation dropped.


23 posted on 06/13/2024 8:01:57 AM PDT by Pres Raygun (Repent America)
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To: fwdude

Go nuclear


24 posted on 06/13/2024 8:09:04 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: fwdude

Don’t put another dime into public generated wind or solar energy. If private people want to produce that, they can sell their leftovers back to the grid. Spend all public moneys on gas generated plants or new nuclear power plants. Wind/Solar is not reliable.


25 posted on 06/13/2024 8:22:34 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: fwdude

AND of course. “Communities of color hardest hit.”


26 posted on 06/13/2024 8:38:51 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: fwdude

Surely you are not an idiot.

If the outside temp is 90F and you turn off your AC the inside tempt will be 85F by the time sunrise rolls around. At that point no one can turn on their PCs or any other equipment or even sit in the “empty” rooms — the AC is playing catchup.
Unless the AC is massive, like what is used to freeze food, it will play catchup all day until sundown.
Repeat.
In such warm areas AC has to run continuously. Even with excellent insulation.


27 posted on 06/13/2024 8:45:27 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
If only Texas had big lignite deposits it could tap for power generation.

We do have lots of lignite deposits, but we are trying to move away from using them. Lignite is really nasty when it burns. There are cancer clusters for miles around a coal power plant. And, those strip mines crawl along for miles, destroying the water table as it goes. And, a lignite power plant is just not very efficient.

But, we do have lots of natural gas we can use.

28 posted on 06/13/2024 9:25:47 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: fwdude

not enough time to build a nuclear reactor


29 posted on 06/13/2024 9:41:38 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: fwdude

Wow Perpetual Energy!


30 posted on 06/13/2024 9:42:30 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: impimp
"None of your business what commercial buildings want to do"

If those commercial buildings are owned and operated by corporate entities that support politicians, PACs, think tanks, etc. that promote causes and legislation contrary to my self-interests, then they have made what they want to do my business.

31 posted on 06/13/2024 9:47:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: bobbo666

I did NOT mean to imply that businesses should completely shut off their A/C’s overnight, but they could raise the temperature control by about 5-10 degrees.

Well-insulated buildings can certainly retain enough residual cool air overnight when the direct sunlight isn’t affecting them, even when outside temps are hot. Anyway, I’m talking about timer-equipped thermostats which can cut back on A/C about 8:00 pm and turn them by down to the desired temperature a few hours before working hours. This is already done by many businesses to save on electricity expense.

And the completely vacant office spaces don’t need A/C on at all. There are many BILLIONS of cubic feet of these.


32 posted on 06/13/2024 9:51:59 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: fwdude

That’s partially because it takes more energy to cool them down than to keep them cool.

The other part of the situation is that they are billed based on peak demand rather than total usage in a lot of places.


33 posted on 06/13/2024 9:53:05 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: fwdude

Easy Peasy just get T.Boone to build more wind turbines. Oh wait he can’t he’s dead. Call Warren Buffet then.


34 posted on 06/13/2024 10:47:24 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: antidemoncrat

Exactly! And for every 20-30 gas fired stations throw in a 4-th gen nuclear plant with no watermelon delaying-lawsuits allowed. Toss out every one. Then they could be built in a normal time-frame and thus reasonable cost. They need to give up panels and windmills - IO heard they didn’t do so well a couple years ago when they had that deep freeze hit.


35 posted on 06/13/2024 11:14:39 AM PDT by curious7
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To: fwdude

Yes. My suggestion would be one way to fix the mess, but not until we get an American back in the White House.


36 posted on 06/13/2024 11:27:33 AM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: fwdude

They’ve long known that ERCOT, the state’s largest power grid, is most vulnerable on hot late-summer nights as the sun goes down. That’s when the big chunk of energy generated by solar power goes offline. It gets worse if the wind goes down as well, and wind generators don’t run.

That’s EXACTLY what they want. To drive up prices, to be “green”, and to kill off the carbon they want to offset.

Frankly, we need to build more natural gas, coal, and nuclear power plants in Texas.


37 posted on 06/13/2024 11:31:45 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: curious7

Ercot put way too much faith in solar panels and windmills that winter. When the freeze hit, it was cloudy and there was no wind. Just bone chilling cold. At my house we got down to 5 degrees with no power.


38 posted on 06/13/2024 11:35:22 AM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: fwdude; bobbo666

The global company I work for has a 6 story HQ building, complete with server room, C-suite level folks, etc.

On the weekends, the A/C is turned off for most spaces, except the server rooms/IDF’s. Also it’s temperature changed (raised in the summer, lowered in the winter) outside of normal hours (basically 6 am to 6 pm is ‘normal’ hours). I know, because I’m there at 0600-0615 AM, and the temperature is a little higher than later on in the day during the summer, or a lower cooler in the winter.

Doesn’t matter, I have a 10” desk fan that I turn on before I sit down.


39 posted on 06/13/2024 11:53:08 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Regardless of how you feel, every corporate entity should be able to use as much power as they want, subject to the obvious limitations of the line and transformer ratings at their place of business. The idea that people will have a say in how much power a business can use is an affront to freedom and the type of thing a democrat would push for.


40 posted on 06/13/2024 3:36:17 PM PDT by impimp ( )
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