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Texas may need to double power generation over next six years: ERCOT leader
NBC 5 DFW ^ | June 12, 2024 | Phil Prazan

Posted on 06/13/2024 6:27:31 AM PDT by fwdude

NBC 5 learned more about how leaders at the state's largest power grid think it will perform during upcoming hot Texas summers.

ERCOT and Public Utility Commission leaders updated lawmakers in Austin Wednesday morning after a striking new report issued by the grid operator.

They've long known that ERCOT, the state's largest power grid, is most vulnerable on hot late-summer nights as the sun goes down. That's when the big chunk of energy generated by solar power goes offline. It gets worse if the wind goes down as well, and wind generators don't run.

According to a report delivered to lawmakers this week, each August night at around 9 p.m., ERCOT predicts more than a 16 percent chance the grid will have to take emergency measures like asking people to use less energy. ERCOT estimators say there's a 12 percent chance the grid will see rolling blackouts in parts of the state.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economics; electricity; energy; ercot; infrastructure; texas
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Don't worry, "clean" energy will save us..... until it can't.

In case people not in the Southwest don't know, we do not cool off late in the afternoon or even when the sun sets like other parts of the country. We are often in the 90's up until 11:00 pm during the hottest months of summer.

1 posted on 06/13/2024 6:27:32 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Fire up them coal fired power plants you mothballed.


2 posted on 06/13/2024 6:29:14 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I was drowning in self pity until I bathed in the refreshing Lake of Respect.)
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To: fwdude

If only Texas had big lignite deposits it could tap for power generation.


3 posted on 06/13/2024 6:29:56 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: fwdude

One problem that some people have mentioned is that commercial facilities are often air conditioned for 12 or more hours when no one is even occupying the building. This needs to stop. Billions of cubic feet of vacant space don’t need A/C at night.


4 posted on 06/13/2024 6:31:40 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: fwdude

Texas should build gas powered power plants right next to their oil refining plants and if the government bans them, ignore their orders like Biden ignores Supreme Court Rulings and the Constitution.


5 posted on 06/13/2024 6:31:43 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (CEAZY)
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To: fwdude

“What do we want? Less windmills and solar panels! When do we want them? NEVER!”


6 posted on 06/13/2024 6:32:20 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: antidemoncrat

Natural gas fired power plants would fix the problems.
West Texas has lots of natural gas.
Gas fired plants are a lot cleaner than the coal fired plants and less expensive to operate.


7 posted on 06/13/2024 6:33:49 AM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: Texas resident

We have a “pResident” who wants to ban natural gas-powered appliances. He’ll do everything he can to thwart gas-powered electricity generation.


8 posted on 06/13/2024 6:35:33 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If only Texas’ power grid were frequency-synchronized with the rest of eastern North America, so they could import power from Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana just by stringing more wires.


9 posted on 06/13/2024 6:39:47 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: fwdude

None of your business what commercial buildings want to do


10 posted on 06/13/2024 6:40:16 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: fwdude

More spinners, please.


11 posted on 06/13/2024 6:40:27 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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None of your business what commercial buildings want to do

Do they want rolling blackouts?

12 posted on 06/13/2024 6:41:10 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: fwdude

Natural Gas Fired Turbines to the rescue.

https://dailyenergyinsider.com/news/44080-nrg-looking-to-develop-new-quick-start-natural-gas-plants-in-texas/


13 posted on 06/13/2024 6:41:52 AM PDT by calico_thompson (Vanity sarcasm)
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To: fwdude

Dude, just turn all the lights in Texas on at night, that light will power the solar cells at night……. 🧐🧐🧐 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


14 posted on 06/13/2024 6:45:03 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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Endless energy
15 posted on 06/13/2024 6:50:28 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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What about California where constant brown outs and blackout happen? The left don’t want to mention this beczuse it severely u dermines their green energy lunacy


16 posted on 06/13/2024 7:00:24 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: fwdude

People used to live in the South without air conditioning. Though not as many!

The migrants increase power demands. Ditto EV vehicles.

Not sure how energy efficient it is turning off/turning down air conditioning at night. Where I worked, they turned it down on weekends.


17 posted on 06/13/2024 7:16:01 AM PDT by alternatives?
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If the media ever started reporting some facts about what ERCOT's done the last 15 years or so with generating capacity here in Texas, a lot of heads would roll at ERCOT and a lot of politicians in Austin would no longer have their sweetheart jobs.

Theoretically there's plenty of capacity here in the nation's largest consumer of power. Last summer consumption averaged about 82,000 - 84,000 MW during peak hours. Current ERCOT capacity is 157,000 MW. Problem is 70.000 MW of that is wind/solar/batteries and it's degrading in its reliability/availability. Simple math and honesty would help Texans understand this predicament we're getting into. Can't have that, though, can we? The graft exposed in Austin might even send people to jail.

18 posted on 06/13/2024 7:20:39 AM PDT by Al B. ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: alternatives?

I don’t get it. Tens of millions of people in the state have transitioned to far more efficient energy-using appliances and lighting. LED’s are supposed to use a small fraction of what the old incandescents used, and produce far less heat.

How are we using much less energy through efficiency but still running short of power?


19 posted on 06/13/2024 7:32:25 AM PDT by fwdude ( )
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To: fwdude

Many industries would, in fact, appreciate the lower rates associated with a less reliable grid.


20 posted on 06/13/2024 7:50:20 AM PDT by impimp ( )
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