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Live thread [05/30/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Obama-Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
Andrew Giuliani ^ | Sidebar Mod

Posted on 05/30/2024 6:51:54 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Edited on 05/30/2024 6:53:08 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: rx

I believe that’s NYS rules.


21 posted on 05/30/2024 7:10:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Avalon Memories

Same. I can’t believe this is happening.


22 posted on 05/30/2024 7:10:58 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: Reno89519

Oh look, the two faced lair is back. So which is it today, are you supporting the persecution of Trump again? You still think if Trump is convicted it helps you, desanctonious and crispycream? That’s some pretty low life BS on your part. I will never forget you supported all this BS before you started pretending you don’t.


23 posted on 05/30/2024 7:11:50 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: janetjanet998
I believe Count 1 is the same as all others....but not really because the first two checks were not signed by Trump...

I'll go back and see if all 34 counts are identical.

24 posted on 05/30/2024 7:13:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: janetjanet998

The judge is again instructing that the jury can discharge the entirety of the testimony of a witness who has lied previously or in the testimony.

They are hearing again that they must find corroboration of the testimony of Cohen because he is being treated as an accomplice. Thus, even if they find Cohen’s testimony “believable,” they still must have corroborating evidence to support that testimony.
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25 posted on 05/30/2024 7:13:51 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: Gay State Conservative

If that juror is deliberating with the others, then Merchan can’t release the juror, can he? Though with Merchan, what is legal doesn’t seem to be an issue. He does what he wants.

These cases against Trump show me that the court system can be stacked against anyone.

I’ve had very little experience with the courts, so this is all quite new to me.


26 posted on 05/30/2024 7:14:15 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

I suspect Merchan’s vague instructions to get the jurors to convict on the felony were so confusing that some of the jurors
resorted to news accounts and cable commentary last night for a clue as to what the hell he was talking about.


27 posted on 05/30/2024 7:14:36 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: janetjanet998

*** The jury is asking for instructions on count one***

What is the charge on count one?


28 posted on 05/30/2024 7:15:25 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

https://youtubetranscript.com/?v=SyZBN_IYwE8

Here are President Trump’s arrival comments this morning from Youtube with transcript.


29 posted on 05/30/2024 7:15:26 AM PDT by edie1960 (7 )
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Trump is the first of the the Biden democrat party trials to happen if they can put Trump in prison.

The just us system in action aka democrat democracy.


30 posted on 05/30/2024 7:16:14 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Sacajaweau
But you don't know if it rained all night or began 10 minutes ago.

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OR

if the crooks came by with a water truck at odark 3 a.m. while you were sleeping and sprayed the block down

and sent the paid crises actors with all green matching umbrellas to circle the block

circumstantial evidence

isn't evidence.

31 posted on 05/30/2024 7:16:39 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: janetjanet998

They are now hearing the most troubling aspect of the instructions: that they do not have to be unanimous on what actually occurred on the second crime that motivated the falsification of the business records. They need only be unanimous that the business records were falsified to use “unlawful means” in the form of one of the three suggested crimes. That includes federal election violations, falsification of business records, or tax violations. For critics, this means that Trump could be convicted in a divided 4-4-4 jury with only a few jurors agreeing on the underlying intent linked to a specific secondary crime


32 posted on 05/30/2024 7:21:15 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: FamiliarFace

I believe all counts are the same...It’s been said over and over....there is really only one count.


33 posted on 05/30/2024 7:21:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Avalon Memories

“I’m also hanging onto hope that the jury will hang.”

And I am hoping the judge will hang. He is a disgrace to the American justice system. This debacle is being allowed, while many sit and watch. His actions make me despise my beloved country and I bet I am not the only one feeling this.


34 posted on 05/30/2024 7:22:31 AM PDT by Toespi ( )
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To: FamiliarFace
If that juror is deliberating with the others, then Merchan can't release the juror, can he?

Alan Dershowitz says he's seen it done.

35 posted on 05/30/2024 7:23:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Lethal Force Authorized At Mar-a-Lago!)
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To: JoSixChip

Why don’t you go crawl back under your rock? No one is listening or cares about what you are ranting about, your insults are stale, you are not even a distraction, simply embarrassing yourself.


36 posted on 05/30/2024 7:24:20 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Build the Wall, Deport Them All. No amnesty for anyone.)
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To: chuckee
I suspect Merchan’s vague instructions to get the jurors to convict on the felony were so confusing that some of the jurors resorted to news accounts and cable commentary last night for a clue as to what the hell he was talking about.

And people get that kind of info via their cell phone nowadays. I imagine that in a case where the jury has been told not to, that an appeal could involve subpoenaed phones to see if any jurists were naughty.

37 posted on 05/30/2024 7:24:48 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: FamiliarFace

https://www.scribd.com/document/636099588/Donald-J-Trump-Indictment?ftag=YHF4eb9d17


38 posted on 05/30/2024 7:27:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Reno89519
No one is listening or cares about what you are ranting about

Then what do you care? I just want everyone to remember who you are. You supported this BS, even claimed "Trump deserved it" when you thought it helped you, desanctomonious and crispycream. I think everyone should be aware of that to put your little comments in perspective, and I mean to make sure of it.
39 posted on 05/30/2024 7:29:11 AM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: Toespi

I’m hoping for an acquittal. If the jury is hung...it can be tried again and that would start almost immediately...in fact I bet the paperwork is ready to go.


40 posted on 05/30/2024 7:29:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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