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The Ukrainian Air Force Wanted Four Squadrons Of F-16s. It’s Finally Getting Them.
Forbes ^ | May 28, 2024 | David Axe

Posted on 05/29/2024 4:58:57 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Gen. Serhii Golubtsov, the commander of the Ukrainian air force, has said all along he needed four operational squadrons of Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters to have any chance of controlling the air over a single sector of the 700-mile front line of Russia’s wider war on Ukraine.

It’s taken more than a year of intensive diplomacy between Ukrainian, Norwegian, Dutch, Danish and Belgian officials, but Golubtsov is finally getting his four squadrons.

On Tuesday, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky announced Belgium would donate 30 surplus F-16s—boosting to 85 the total number of the nimble, supersonic fighters Ukraine should receive starting this summer.

That’s enough jets to sustain the Ukrainians’ F-16 training unit in Romania—currently flying 18 ex-Dutch F-16s—while also equipping the equivalent of four squadrons each with 16 jets. The three additional planes would presumably be in reserve to replace the inevitable combat losses.

The 64 front-line jets—the equivalent of a U.S. Air Force fighter wing—could achieve local air superiority, albeit temporarily, Golubtsov said last year.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: davidaxe; dontaxeme; formerpresident; killkillkillforpeace; mic; surejan; suretheyare; thezelenska; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersthrilled
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To: ransomnote

....excellent overview of this whole situation....these F-16s appear to be quite old, but even with upgrades, etc., how would they stand up to more modern fighters (some of these appear to be block 15s...?) I was an aircraft maintainer on Block 30 F-16 Cs and Ds...many of those are now in the boneyard in Arizona or have been converted to aerial drones ending their lives being shot down....


21 posted on 05/29/2024 6:34:25 PM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: MinorityRepublican

What does an F16 go for on the open market in Iraq?


22 posted on 05/29/2024 6:35:40 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: ansel12
"It has been said that history repeats itself. This is perhaps not quite correct; it merely rhymes."

- Theodor Reik, 1965

23 posted on 05/29/2024 6:42:26 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Who is John Galt?

What does the Cold War’s fight against Communism have to do with what’s going on today?


24 posted on 05/29/2024 6:50:04 PM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: SaveFerris
Gamechanger?

The Russian's will blow up the runways they need, or shoot them down.

25 posted on 05/29/2024 6:52:34 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: ducttape45
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled The Ukrainian Air Force Wanted Four Squadrons Of F-16s. It’s Finally Getting Them., ducttape45 wrote:

But can they fly them?

I saw an article saying that the trainees completed basic  flight training at the end of 2023 and were transitioning to specifics about the F-16. I pity those pilots. Fortunately for them, the F-16's are expected to start trickling in at the end of the year and are not expected to complete delivery until 2028. Based on current events and the steady withdrawal of support from the west (despite the MSM assertions), the Ukraine will likely lose the war long before Ukrainian pilot are sacrificed against experienced Russian pilots.

My post here has the details.


26 posted on 05/29/2024 6:56:13 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wrong thing to do......WWIII is just around the corner. If the experts think Putin will not react, he has been given provocation now to pull out all the stops and maybe go nuclear. Russia needs Ukraine oil to economically survive. This comes from Obozo/Biden mistaken foreign policy years back........


27 posted on 05/29/2024 6:57:32 PM PDT by chopperk (are)
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To: Who is John Galt?

I was hoping you could explain why you keep making those irrelevant posting over and over.


28 posted on 05/29/2024 6:58:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ransomnote
Thanks for posting this.

I was aware of some of the stuff from Mercouris, but not the rest.

I've been being told that the F-16s were arriving since last August - nearly a year now.

29 posted on 05/29/2024 7:00:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: woodpusher

More than likely


30 posted on 05/29/2024 7:20:03 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: kiryandil; SaveFerris

Gamechanger???

No, the games the same... Picking the pockets of the American taxpayers.


31 posted on 05/29/2024 7:38:35 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: LastDayz

Until you hit the ground.


32 posted on 05/29/2024 7:39:36 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Bullish

Exactly. I didn’t include the /s


33 posted on 05/29/2024 8:32:21 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m surprised they had that many pilots still alive.


34 posted on 05/29/2024 8:43:36 PM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: roving

Denys Davydov is available in Switzerland.


35 posted on 05/29/2024 8:47:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

36 posted on 05/29/2024 9:19:38 PM PDT by Allegra (Toss a zeeper in the Dnieper)
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To: armourenthusiast; All

“Since Russia is jamming all our GPS weapons, we will have to modify them to use gaydar instead.”


LOL !

All precision guided gaydar munitions fall on Hollywood.


37 posted on 05/29/2024 9:24:21 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: C210N

Infuriating.

Send those idiots defective Boeing passenger planes if anything.


38 posted on 05/29/2024 9:50:27 PM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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To: Bullish

“Until you hit the ground.”

Yeah....on the landing gear.


39 posted on 05/30/2024 6:18:49 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: armourenthusiast

“Since Russia is jamming all our GPS weapons, we will have to modify them to use gaydar instead.”

A number of FR posters will be in immediate danger if we do that!


40 posted on 05/30/2024 8:59:14 AM PDT by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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