Posted on 05/24/2024 12:51:15 PM PDT by fwdude
Yes. But another obvious fact is that a lot fathers (particularly non-Scout fathers) aren't interested in spending nights with a bunch of little boys at Scout meetings and jamborees when there's the exciting world of gaming, phone staring, and social media to interact with.
This is also true.
It’s scouting alright.... Scouting for young boys for the pedophiles running it.
That's a tell.
Quit supporting both scouting organizations as soon as they went woke. Hopefully soon, people will realize what the marxists and grommers are doing to this country.
Yep
This is what used to be the Boy Scouts. I assume that they will attempt to stop anyone from trying to start a new organization with the old symbols and values.
I would submit to everyone on this thread that Boy Scouts (forget the new name) remain an alternative to a decaying culture. But you have to be local, and smart.
The National Office is a disaster. National is where all the stupid and destructive policies and decisions are made, and housed. They’re a bunch of jack wagons, just like the people of America are good (in general…) but the government sucks.
However, in practice the real management of the Troop is with...the Troop. Furthermore, Councils wield more power than National and in general Councils provide resources and advancement help without a heavy hand.
As I said, it is at the Troop adult/leadership level where the general tone is set. Despite what the MSM want you to believe (because they really, really like the goodness for which Scouting stands…), the century+ tradition and time-tested skills/spirit/education combo that developed the character of tomorrow's men remains alive and well with thousands of individuals who haven't bowed to the enemies of civilization.
To be fair, some Troops have drunk from the Kool Aid. Well, this isn’t Russia (yet) - if you find a Troop that isn't in synch with you, find another one. You aren't shackled to your town's Troop. Or start your own...you know...innovation and self-starting initiative.
And BE INVOLVED. Because even if you choose an alternative to BSA, nobody has your child's best interest at heart as much as you do. Become an Assistant Scoutmaster, go on trips, maybe even learn a few things.
I have been involved in Scouting for decades, always at the Troop level. I’ve seen plenty of Scouts grow up to become strong leaders. I’ve seen a few become losers, too. But I’ve seen some kids who society would have dumped rise to the occasion, and make it to Eagle. This is first-hand, empirical evidence….not an opinion formed by reading the posts of guys (not necessarily cc’d) typing bravely from their home responding by other guys typing bravely who couldn’t tie a square knot or treat for shock to save their life, and think a deadman anchor is a nautical apparatus. /rant
One clarifying point: if you don’t have a kid in Scouts, I would think long and hard about getting involved. You will likely be treated with suspicion (and, to be fair, I’d prolly do the same) and you COULD become a fall guy for Bad Stuff if it happens.
I get the desire to dump the BSA. I also understand how society wants conservatives to abandon tradition. Do what is best for your kids - be it BSA or something else. But don't let CNN or some dude who knew a guy who knew a guy who said Boy Scouts sucks, or a putz from National, think for you.
Scouting Boys of America.
Reality here is there’s good folks everywhere, much like yourself. I remember being a tenderfoot working my way up in the early 60s. I stopped, did 4H for awhile then highschool came and then life.
The educational system is the same way as the scouts.. there’s some really good people there but these institutions have been infected but the lefts rot. Same with many religions and churches. Everything they touch they destroy.
The scouts like all these other infected institutions need to be eradicated and start over with strict vetting processes for normal people. You can’t fix something that broken... you need to start over.
Lived in the greater Cincinnati area for 15+ years ... in addition to several other areas of the country. I’m originally from Canada, a former U.S. Marine, and a former Boy Scout (Canadian version) ... my years in Cincinnati left me with an indelible impression ... these are some of the most patriotic, decent people I’ve had the privilege of living amongst.
Thank you. You reminded of the Churchill quote: “it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”
I abandoned the public school system decades ago. It is beyond repair, at least until in loco parentis is removed.
I don’t believe it’s ready to abandon Scouting. It is a perfect program for young men and is time-tested. The rot at the top hasn’t fully infected the Troops.
I suspect that day will arrive. Earth is imperfect snd Heaven is paradise. Yet, every man and woman has a Line. It varies from individual to individual.
When Troops are filled with a cross-section of wokesters, leftist parents who want their sons to sleep in tents with girls, and gun and archery ranges are closed, I’ll see you on the dark side of the moon. We’re not there.
Yet.
Your mileage may vary.
It’s too late. That A##hole Rex Tillerson destroyed scouting. A 100-year-old organization helping boys grow into men.
All of this can be done equally well in your local Trail Life chapter, without the National apparatus even being a concern.
That's a tell.
Oh, yeah. That one's the sort of Official Denial that confirms the case.
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