“fixed it, froggie”
It’s weird how the Operatives here continue to use TOTALLY DISCREDITED numbers regarding Russian causalities, but it is consistent with their implication that the only reason this war even took place was because Putin woke up on the wrong side of the bed on Feb 24, 2022 and thus decided to start a war.
kiryandil: "fixed it, froggie"
BobL: "It’s weird how the Operatives here continue to use TOTALLY DISCREDITED numbers regarding Russian causalities, but it is consistent with their implication that the only reason this war even took place was because Putin woke up on the wrong side of the bed on Feb 24, 2022 and thus decided to start a war."
Here are all the estimates I can find on both Russian and Ukrainian casualties.
Implied numbers are based on historical ratios of killed to wounded.
Casualty Estimates Russia-Ukraine War -- to date
Source of Estimate | Date of Estimate | Ukrainians Total Killed | Ukrainians Wounded captured missing | Ukrainians Total Casualties | Russians Total Killed | Russians Wounded captured missing | Russians Total Casualties |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ukraine's government* | May 2024 | 31,000 | **100,000** | **131,000** | **220,000** | **280,000** | 500,000 |
United States gvt. | August 2023 | 70,000 | 120,000 | 190,000 | **100,000** | **250,000** | 350,000 |
United Kingdom gvt. | April 2024 | unkn | unkn | unkn | **150,000** | **300,000** | 450,000 |
UA Losses Project | April 2024 | ~50,000 | **100,000** | **150,000** | unkn | unkn | unkn |
Ukraine Museum of History | Nov 2023 | 35,000 | 120,000 | 155,000 | unkn | unkn | unkn |
Russian government | February 2024 | **100,000** | **344,000** | 444,000 | unkn | unkn | unkn |
Mediazona -- implied | February 2024 | unkn | unkn | unkn | 100,000 | **300,000** | **400,000** |
* = Ukrainians estimate their own casualties as averaging one-third their reports of Russian casualties.
** = implied estimate
As for Vlad the Invader's motives they certainly had nothing to do with his bed, and everything to do with measuring himself against Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great and Stalin the Mass-Murderer.
So invading Ukraine is all about Vlad making up for any deficiencies he perceived in those comparisons: