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A former PLA soldier hired by Russians gives a reality check on Russia-Ukraine war
YouTube ^ | 5/23/2024 | Li Jianwei

Posted on 05/23/2024 10:32:50 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier

"The Russians are stubborn and want us to continue fighting...Bro, this war is unwinnable."

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 05/23/2024 10:32:50 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: The Old Hoosier

You know with all due respect I appreciate you posting this. But a lot of us don’t have a whole Lotta time to listen to some YouTube spiel,

couldn’t you just encapsulate what this guy is saying?


2 posted on 05/23/2024 10:38:57 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: The Old Hoosier

Well, the deep-state elites running the Kremlin are ones who are stubborn. They are sending poor Russians to be slaughtered on the killing fields ok Ukraine.
+450.000 Russians either killed or ravaged, already. A generation lost.
Russian imperialism is the Russian citizens worst enemy.
They have had enough of Moscow’s forever wars…


3 posted on 05/23/2024 10:44:48 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
+450.000 Russians Ukrainians either killed or ravaged, already. A generation lost.

fixed it, froggie

4 posted on 05/23/2024 11:02:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: nikos1121

In this case the value in the video isn’t really a summary or a conclusion but in listening to the personal everyday details of this guys personal experience at the front.


5 posted on 05/23/2024 11:12:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: nikos1121

Very high casualty rate on his side, he said the new troops are mostly useless, the average time from arrival on the front and killed in combat he estimates to be 8-10 hours.

Also seems to be implying a significant portion of the fighting force are foreign mercenaries like himself, he had in his group, Nepalese, Indian, Cuban, and African soldiers, along with Russian ones. Communication is an issue because of the language barriers.

The fighting is very brutal, particularly afraid of the numerous Drones that the Ukrainian forces are using. Also particularly mentioned the Polish made mortars which are especially deadly because they don’t make a loud noise in the air so you don’t know to duck until it’s too late.

Lots of dead bodies on the ground and in the streets, the urban warfare was not at all how he imagined it would be. Of his small group of 12, 4 are injured, the rest are dead (this is in about 2 weeks), he had a mortar hit near him but saved by his bullet proof vest with only a minor shrapnel wound to his arm.


6 posted on 05/23/2024 11:34:06 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: USA-FRANCE

Bla bla bla.

This war was started by us in October 2021 with our NATO move.

And it is continued by us with a constant flow of money and weapons.

The victory parades and slogans are already beginning to fade away from our media. We are already beginning to “manage expectations.”

What is left is a very grim reality and future for Ukraine. Not Russia, but Ukraine who’s currency is worthless, Ukraine that is massively indebted, Ukraine that is looking at a demographic implosion, Ukraine that lost >37% of their GDP, Ukraine that that went to war over NATO and won’t be a member, but also lost all chances of EU membership which was in reach before the war, Ukraine which lost ~16% of their landmass, a major industrial area, their steel industry and major port city.

What you’re left with are imaginary casualties, wonder weapons, dreams about counter-offensives that go no where, some “hope” today that Ukraine doesn’t lose land any faster than they are.

And who is in a “forever war?” Since 1991 we (the US) have had 251 different real world military operations around the world. We have our troops in more nations than anyone else, have more troops outside our border than anyone else, spend more on war than anyone else, sell more arms than anyone else, attacked more nations than anyone else, invaded more nations than anyone else, sponsored more coups than anyone else, have one of the biggest military’s in manpower, have one of the biggest nuclear arsenals but the most weapons deployed... We have not had (((one day of peace))) in 33 years since the Cold War ended (the end of the Cold War only made us become more belligerent - without the balance of power by the Soviets and Warsaw Pact), and it’s us that’s attacking, invading, and sponsoring coups while talking about peace.


7 posted on 05/23/2024 11:46:27 PM PDT by Red6
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To: The Old Hoosier

“The Russians are stubborn, but the people making money off this war want us to continue fighting...Bro, this war is unwinnable.”


8 posted on 05/23/2024 11:47:07 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Truthsearcher

Thank you. That’s sickening


9 posted on 05/23/2024 11:48:48 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Red6

Your name Red is appropriate.


10 posted on 05/23/2024 11:54:17 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Truthsearcher

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3451476/posts?page=196#196

I call guys like you “Wrongbro”.


11 posted on 05/23/2024 11:54:17 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: Red6

Obama has bombed more countries than any other President.

Tank vs. Kamikaze drones:

https://youtube.com/shorts/apTGty0UJkE?si=L7llI3Y1r-Fd1gln


12 posted on 05/24/2024 12:04:25 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: ifinnegan

“Your name Red is appropriate.”

We shouldn’t have gotten stuck with the “Red” state label. Change to some other color or name.

It’s the “Blue” states that are trending to embrace RED China’s Communism.


13 posted on 05/24/2024 12:12:59 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: ifinnegan

Tell me what point you disagree with?

I’ll gladly back it up for you.


14 posted on 05/24/2024 12:18:54 AM PDT by Red6
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To: nikos1121

This is a Chinese mercenary talking about urban warfare, that it wasn’t like he thought it would be. He imagined throwing grenades- kicking in doors. He said he thought it would be like what he saw in the movies.
I would think if he was really PLA like he said he was, he’d know it wasn’t like in the movies.
Likely first encounter with drones though - armed drones.
Others around him die - he’s a mercenary so I get the impression that he’s around foreign mercenaries and Russians, possibly prisoners trying to earn their freedom.

Given the hazard level and sense of abandonment as those around him flee - I get the impression he’s on the ‘expendables’ list as a mercenary. If what he says is true.

He said there’s hi death rate but the Russians keep sending them back in - again, as a merc he’s not on the best assignments IMHO.

He talks about death everywhere, death on both sides in each room of a house - the bodies smell etc.

Some sounds raw and true to me, and some sounds like propaganda to me. Opinions in he comments are in some cases mixed between real and propaganda. But most comments attend to the brutality the man describes. He was told to wear a white armband, which he doesn’t like because in China that’s kind of for a funeral. But he was told the group would kill anyone not wearing a white arm band. SOmeone in the comments took that to mean ‘kill civilians’ and someone else said in the combat zone they are in, the civilians are long gone -so kill any military man no wearing a white arm band?
This troop is being used as a sledge hammer - no strategy or real cohesion - just go in and kill or be killed.
In some respects, I don’t believe some of what he says.

He said the war is not winnable, but he’s in a group of mercenaries and sounds like near the front lines. Elsewhere the Russians are taking over towns.

He talks about the language barrier, which means he can’t collaborate with the Russians he’s fighting with. Again, this seems like a cannon fodder platoon - they can’t even collaborate. Just crawl around under explosions and try to survive.

He is hard to read because of my cultural limitations - I have had Asian friends who smile when they are being grim. This guy is almost light-hearted - maybe PTSD, maybe cultural display of bravery, maybe not. For people dying (on his side, and on the other side) all around him, returning alone from fights, he doesn’t seem to want out. As a merc he could leave-if he’s marveling at his luck at being alive and feels the war isn’t winnable, then why stay? The pay that good? No where else for a merc to fight?

I am not military, but even I knew it would not be like ‘in the movies’. What seems new to me is the level of constant overlapping threats with mortars, bombs, mines, bullets, drones etc. all popping at once. Threat level from drones so high that mines ‘don’t matter’.
When in fact it’s multiple threats all at once. He said you end up ignoring mines as you’re trying to dodge drones dropping explosives.
He says in China soldiers look out for each other (in the comments, there’s doubt that this is true) whereas the Russians will leave you. He says there are soldiers on his side from many nations all over the world (mercenary squad?)
He describes surviving when most don’t - i.e., he was blown onto the roof of a house while others were killed. But the degree it keeps happening, when he seems oddly ‘fortunate’ and although surprised at the level of brutality, not seemingly overburdened or wanting to leave. I dunno.

Some in the comments talk like, “Of course the Ukraine will win...”

The Chinese Merc says he’s former PLA but some say he’s older than PLA, so someone speculated maybe he left the PLA for many many years and returned for this war?


15 posted on 05/24/2024 12:22:23 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Red6

Hi Red.

Thought I’d fix up some of the things you said. You said we (the US) spend more on military than anybody else. We spend more on military than everybody else added together. Being as big as we are, we can sustain losses. We don’t have to win every conflict.

I don’t know how you came up with the figure 251 conflicts, but, since 1991, we have moved the borders of NATO from what used to be West Germany to Poland, and also the Baltic countries, and most of the former Yugoslavia. This is called winning.

More than half the countries of Latin America are today functioning democracies, with vibrant economies, and improving quality of life such as falling murder rates. No doubt, we have a lot of work ahead of us. This, too, is called winning.

Asia is a gigantic continent, with lots of diversity and cross-currents. Instead of trying to summarize, I’ll just point to one country: India.

India is just amazing. It’s the world’s biggest democracy, with an economy that is growing faster than China’s. I think of India and China as the tortoise and the hare. Yes, China sprinted out of the gate (since about 1979, when Deng came into office). But, China isn’t a democracy and, so, is being overcome by problems.

Africa is today the only region of the world stuck in poverty. Yet, there are a growing number of countries in Africa that are getting their act together.

Russia isn’t anything like us. The loss of the Warsaw Pact nations of eastern Europe and even the SSRs of the former Soviet Union have collapsed its population and economy. Nobody has ever successfully invaded Russia, not even Napoleon or Hitler; but, Russia has never won a war outside its borders either. Japan in 1904, Poland in 1921, Finland in the winter war, Afghanistan in the 1980s, and now Ukraine. And, sometimes, after losing one of these border wars, there is an internal revolution in Russia.

We have a real advantage being a democracy. When we wind up with a stupid person as president, we suffer; but, only for a time. This fall, we will replace our bumbling idiot in the White House with a man of intelligence, vision and energy. But, Russia, no. There is no way Putin will be replaced. There isn’t even a viable candidate to replace him, nor a decent opposition party. He is Russia’s dictator and his failures result in other people being purged, as in falling from a tall building or being beaten to death in prison. Democracy has its problems, but it is war better than dictatorship.


16 posted on 05/24/2024 12:24:22 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Red6

Red6 repeats the same old Russian talking points. As if repetition will somehow make them come true.


17 posted on 05/24/2024 12:48:42 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Redmen4ever; All

“Russia has never won a war outside its borders either. “


Huh ?

They won the biggest one of them all.


18 posted on 05/24/2024 12:55:49 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Red6

+1


19 posted on 05/24/2024 1:04:11 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: Redmen4ever; Reverend Wright; All
"Russia has never won a war outside its borders either."

Funny, it sure looked like the Soviet Union's flag flying from Hitler's Reichstag Building in Berlin on May 2, 1945 after winning The Battle of Berlin. Unless the Ukrainian SS units were playing a trick on the Nazis still left in the city.

20 posted on 05/24/2024 1:56:36 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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