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U.S. Needs Sea-Based Nuclear Capability to Ensure Second-Strike Capability
US Department of Defense ^ | May 23, 2024 | C. Todd Lopez

Posted on 05/23/2024 3:08:53 PM PDT by Candor7

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Boomers and Rumors.

Will Shufflin' Joe keep the deterrence?

Doubt it.

1 posted on 05/23/2024 3:08:53 PM PDT by Candor7
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To: Candor7

What happened to the sub launched Tomahawk missile?
Bush give that away too? He stripped the rest of the navy of nukes.


2 posted on 05/23/2024 3:13:14 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69

Still in inventory ?

The Tomahawk (/ˈtɒməhɔːk/) Land Attack Missile (TLAM) is a long-range, all-weather, jet-powered, subsonic cruise missile that is primarily used by the United States Navy and Royal Navy in ship and submarine-based land-attack operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)


3 posted on 05/23/2024 3:18:37 PM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Candor7

“Will Shufflin’ Joe keep the deterrence?”

Probably not. There seems to be a pattern in this Administration - they continue to DESTROY our military, with cancellation after cancellation, overrun after overrun, yet ABSOLUTELY INSIST on getting us into as many wars as humanly possible (with Taiwan about to blow this week, thanks to them).

Of course, to the Chest-Beaters here, it doesn’t matter at all, because we are America, and therefore WE ARE INVINCIBLE!!!!

But to normal people - yes, this is something to worry about.


4 posted on 05/23/2024 3:27:42 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Candor7

The REAL secret is retired weapon designers are worried about the W76 warhead.
The Pit was so small it was right on the edge of not working.
Instaled in Trident I 8x MIRV


5 posted on 05/23/2024 3:28:32 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Candor7

Nuclear missiles on Trident submarines, the Ohio class seemed to be state of the art not that long ago. Did they scrap them all, and turn their capabilities into launching sun tan lotion, and butt plugs?


6 posted on 05/23/2024 3:39:17 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Candor7
From the article:
...that [ballistic missile submarine] force is always out there on alert, on patrol, unknown where they're at

Don't have the credentials to debate the point, but for how long will the location of that leg remain unknown?

It is easy to imagine oceans flooded with submerged, difficult to detect loitering drones guided by informed satellites.

We had time to man up after Pearl Harbor, but perhaps not the next time. Is it possible that we may reach a point in time when it will be too late to fight a WWIII?

7 posted on 05/23/2024 3:40:46 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: frog in a pot

The correct response to your post is that the people who know what is going on don’t talk, and the people who talk don’t know what they’re talking about.


8 posted on 05/23/2024 3:43:38 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Candor7

Seems I read a long time ago that Bush the elder commanded the removal of all shipboard nukes.


9 posted on 05/23/2024 3:46:39 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: NorthMountain

You are correct.


10 posted on 05/23/2024 3:51:32 PM PDT by Ben Dover (Terrorism is a cancer that can only be cured with massive doses of radiation.)
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To: NorthMountain

Exactly correct. This DOD public relations push piece is advocating for some contractor’s ideas that probably have nothing to do with strategic nuclear weapons and the very real possibility that some idiot country thinks it can do a first strike without consequences— like their own total annihilation. They don’t need to have DOD making suggestions that we can’t do this... because we can, with far more deadly accuracy. Tactical nukes are available in every military service branch (excepting Coast Guard likely).


11 posted on 05/23/2024 3:57:00 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis )
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To: Candor7

What will be first on the chopping block to pay the interest on the debt?


12 posted on 05/23/2024 4:22:18 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Candor7

So we’re to pretend that there no door #4, nukes in space?


13 posted on 05/23/2024 4:22:39 PM PDT by unlearner (I, Robot: I think I finally understand why Dr. Lanning created me... ;-)
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To: Candor7

It is good that VADM Wolfe jr provided a refresher on what has been 50+ year old deterence policy; especially for those Congress who have never had anything other than their own corruption$$ in their minds.
However he needs to stop with the deepState delusion/idiocy that SEAsia/muslim GreatBritain, Sunak/Khan can be a part in US nuclear policy.

-fJRoberts-


14 posted on 05/23/2024 4:27:59 PM PDT by A strike (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by 'climate change')
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To: frog in a pot

The United States and Australia are developing uncrewed underwater vehicles (UUV).

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/tech/australia-us-undersea-drones-ml-hnk-intl/index.html


15 posted on 05/23/2024 4:29:38 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: NorthMountain
The correct response to your post is that the people who know what is going on don’t talk, and the people who talk don’t know what they’re talking about.

That old simplistic axiom sounds like it is right out of the 1800's.

Our national enemies today, however, know when people such the commander of our Air Force Global Strike Command and the Admiral who is director of strategic system do talk in public, they are almost certainly not offering up their game plan.

In any event, my two questions were directed not to high-ranking officials who do know, but to those like me out here on the sidewalk at the retail level for friendly speculation.

16 posted on 05/23/2024 4:54:38 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: rwa265
The United States and Australia are developing uncrewed underwater vehicles (UUV).

Thanks for the article, was only vaguely aware of Australia's efforts.

At the same time, however, it is reported that China has a larger navy than the U.S. and Australia combined. If true, and hulls have much meaning in future warfare that could be relevant. Of course, that may be China's misdirection; we should ask Mitch McConnell.

My reference to Pearl Harbor above was to suggest, even in the face of encouraging news, that our brightest and best is susceptible of getting caught napping.

17 posted on 05/23/2024 5:10:43 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Cert's of States allowing noncitizens to vote for fed offices should not be accepted on Jan 6, 2025.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Trident missiles are maintained, tested, and ready for launch. There is no issue with them, other than the natural process of gradually replacing one generation of weapons system with another.


18 posted on 05/23/2024 5:19:01 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Zathras
"The W76-1 life extension program for refurbishing the original W76-0 warheads is described as an "excellent program" that meets the Navy's needs, with no changes that put the warhead's basic nuclear design at risk. Great care was taken to replicate the original components and processes as closely as possible."

19 posted on 05/23/2024 5:24:32 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Candor7

Burn the planet twice, yeah that’s a GREAT idea.


20 posted on 05/23/2024 5:48:36 PM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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