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To: fireman15
The Ukrainian people were duped into supporting the entertainer Zelensky and to a slightly lesser amount his predecessor Petro Poroshenko. Zelensky ran largely on promises that he would keep the peace with Russia but instead immediately began adopting provocative policy and initiatives.

Your way of thinking fails the smell test. It STINKS!

Whatever happened in Ukraine under Zelenky or his predecessor, is not a good reason for Putin to invade. The Ukrainian people did not want Putin's invasion, and of course, neither did Zelenky.

If we're going to use excuses of wrongheaded policy as reasons that an invasion is warranted, then, the U.S. and most of Europe and many other countries around the world, would be asking to get invaded. That's such a stupid way of thinking. Zelenky and any other Ukraine president is temporarily in power, and what he says can be changed with the next president, and that's the way things work in most democracies. The reasons for war or invasions are many, but words and policies, are not excuses for allowing invasions.

If I was your neighbor and called you an effing idiot, would that be a reason for you to set my house on fire? Diplomacy does not mean that, words or policy changes can be used for starting wars or for invading. Whatever Zelenky said or did, is not reason enough for Putin to try to take over Ukraine.

Mexico is allowing our border to be invaded with people from all over the world... so, should the U.S. invade Mexico to try to take over that country? We have much bigger reasons to invade Mexico than Russia had for invading Ukraine.

What did Zelenky do to Russia in 2014 before Putin decided to invade and take over Crimea? What about the takeover in Georgia?

FACT is that, Putin has always stated that he wanted to reconstitute the Russian empire, or the USSR. What prompted him to say that, other than his stated ambition to restore the old USSR?

An aggressor country does not need an excuse to try to achieve its goals, and Putin/Russia will use the slightest of hints to go after its neighbors. As we speak, there are other countries worried about what Russia will do after the invasion of Ukraine is successor. What did those other countries do to Russia to be fearful of Russia taking them on next?

And, Putin's aggressive nature has been known for decades, and has nothing to do with Trump or Biden or anybody else being U.S. president. And whatever Zelenky said or did, was not affecting Russia, and Putin wanted the slightest of excuses to validate his invasion.

So, stop being so blind,and stop trying to rationalize Putin;s invasion. Only Putin would find your posts satisfying.
94 posted on 05/23/2024 10:07:53 AM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: adorno
So, stop being so blind,and stop trying to rationalize Putin;s invasion. Only Putin would find your posts satisfying.

I have never written anything positive about Putin on this forum. However, the underhanded pattern of activity that took place which was orchestrated by western intelligence agencies along with George Soros and others over many years was intended to provoke the Russians into a confrontation. There are many here like you who blissfully ignore the root causes of what has taken place. It should be an embarrassment to repeatedly post ignorant nonsense and intentional mischaracterizations, but because you have been completely duped by unending and relentless propaganda... most of us with a different point of view refrain from name calling.

But a little self-reflection might be helpful to you. It should be a clue to you when you are on the same side of any issue as Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, Cori Bush, Greg Casar, Delia Ramirez and the rest of our current cadre of DC swamp creatures. Do you also support black lives matter, and defunding the police? Do you support secretly flying millions of military aged illegal immigrant men directly from locations in hot spots throughout the world to strategically selected areas through the USA and putting them up in posh motels with taxpayer funds? Do you support letting men pretending to be women using the same bathrooms as little girls? Do you also support using lawfare with federal, state and local authorities to keep Donald Trump from taking back his rightful position as President of the United States?

President Trump has promised to quickly end the madness in Ukraine, and he will. His solution does not include sending unending $$$ hundreds of Billions of unaccounted taxpayer funds to Ukraine to further provoke the Russians into WWIII.

This situation is one of the largest swindles in history with the biggest victims being hapless Ukrainian men and boys who have been slaughtered by the millions not to defend their country but to provide a cash cow for corrupt politicians. But you just keep spouting out the same nonsense day after day. Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman, Cori Bush, Greg Casar, Delia Ramirez and the rest of our current cadre of DC swamp creatures thank you for your efforts.

112 posted on 05/24/2024 7:51:33 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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