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To: mass55th

About 75,000 Jews were deported to Nazi concentration camps and death camps and 73,500 of them were murdered, but 75% of the approximately 330,000 Jews in metropolitan France in 1939 escaped deportation and survived the Holocaust, which is one of the highest survival rates in Europe.


Which begs the question, did so many Jews survive in France precisely because the French were in charge of the roundups, as opposed to the Germans?


26 posted on 05/21/2024 11:39:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

“...survived the Holocaust, which is one of the highest survival rates in Europe.”—————————
Denmark, I believe did somewhat better. Most of the few Danish Jews sent to camps survived because the Danish government refused to turn its back on them.


31 posted on 05/21/2024 11:55:29 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: dfwgator
First of all, it's likely because there weren't any Jewish ghettos in France, or at least any that I could find doing searches. Since not all of France was immediately occupied, Jews had the opportunity to escape from the free zone. This article explains why so many Jews survived the occupation of France:

How three-quarters of French Jews survived the Holocaust, despite the Vichy regime

The CIC, which was the forerunner of the CIA was instrumental in protecting and helping war criminal Klaus Barbie, the Butcher of Lyon escape capture, and resettle him in South America. Barbie murdered men, women and children...44 children to be exact. The CIA lied to French authorities claiming they had no knowledge of his whereabouts, when they knew damn well where he was, because they'd put him and his family there. He was loose for many years until Serge and Beate Klarsfeld found him in Bolivia, and he was eventually extradited to France in 1983. Unfortunately by that time, the death penalty had been overturned in France, so the bastard ended up in prison until his death in 1991.

34 posted on 05/21/2024 11:59:40 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: dfwgator
Which begs the question, did so many Jews survive in France precisely because the French were in charge of the roundups, as opposed to the Germans?

Kind of, I guess. The Germans gave Vichy quotas. At the time over half the Jews in France were refugees from eastern Europe. Vichy filled the quotas from those first. Of the 77,000 Jews from France murdered, 2/3 or a little more were refugees. France is third in individuals recognized in Yad Vashems Righteous Among the Nations, after Poland and the Netherlands. French Jewish citizens were more likely to be sheltered or smuggled to Switzerland or Spain than refugees, presumably because of existing relationships.

43 posted on 05/21/2024 12:34:11 PM PDT by SJackson (There is only one thing worse than fighting with allies, and that is fighting without them Churchill)
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