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Live thread [05/21/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Obama-Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
Andrew Giuliani ^ | Sidebar Mod

Posted on 05/21/2024 6:22:49 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Fireworks and another Cohen meltdown yesterday.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: bragg; colangelo; hushmoneytrial; showtrial; trump; trumppersecution
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To: mware

Defense says government argument is about election law. ( me: NY does not have any standing in election law)


141 posted on 05/21/2024 12:05:58 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware

I wasn’t very optimistic a month ago. I like our chances now.


142 posted on 05/21/2024 12:06:14 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: mware

Judge decides to stick with standard language for definition of intent.


143 posted on 05/21/2024 12:07:40 PM PDT by mware
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

At top, on the landing page, tap “politics”. You’ll have to keep scrolling aways down.


144 posted on 05/21/2024 12:08:26 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: mware

Bingo. Trump was a federal candidate.


145 posted on 05/21/2024 12:08:55 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

We are really in the weeds now...and I’m a bit over my head. Will continue to post sidebars on Fox news.


146 posted on 05/21/2024 12:08:58 PM PDT by mware
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Anchor Taken Aback When Trump Says ‘We’re Looking At’ Contraceptive Bans — Promises ‘Smart’ Policy Very Soon

WOW/OMG!!! RPOTUS tells KDKA Pittsburgh PA station that he will be coming forth with a policy banning Contraceptives!!
https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/W6SDPtxm

JON DELANO: Let me ask about the abortion issue because as you know that’s an important one here in Pennsylvania — you can get an abortion up to 24 weeks of pregnancy.

You have said that states should be free to make their own decisions on this issue. But as you know, there are some on both sides who want federal legislation.

So let’s be crystal clear on your view, Mr. President, will you veto any federal legislation that would restrict or curtail Pennsylvanians’ current abortion law?

DONALD TRUMP: Well, no, I’m not into the federal — I just took it out of federal. We did something that everybody wanted.

Everybody said also it couldn’t be done. We got rid of Roe v Wade, which brought it back to the states for 52 years. That’s what people wanted to do. They wanted to bring abortion, they wanted to bring that whole thing back to the states.

And then you have your vote. Ohio had a vote. Ohio had a somewhat liberal ending. Also, you know, if you look at what happened in Kansas, had a somewhat liberal ending and some, on the other hand, go a different way, but it’s bringing it back to the people.

It’s the vote of the people within the states, and it’s now a states issue. And that’s where everybody wanted it to be for many, many years, for 50 years. And I got that done.

Now it’s the vote of the people. Pennsylvania is one way and Texas is another way, but that’s what the people wanted.

JON DELANO: So if Congress passes a 15-week bill, you’d veto it.

DONALD TRUMP: I don’t think there’d be any reason for it because all the states are going to have their own. It’s very interesting.

All of the states now, we just got out of the federal government. They, they couldn’t pass anything. Congress couldn’t pass, the Senate couldn’t pass. And it’s really not up to Congress. It’s up to, you know, a whole group of people beyond Congress in front of and behind. But they wanted to get out of Congress. They wanted to get out of the federal government. And that’s what they do.

And now the states have taken these issues, and they’re going and they’re voting. It’s really become a vote of the people within the states. And that’s what people have wanted. And that’s what the legal scholars wanted. Everybody wanted it, and it’s calming down.

It’s really amazing. It’s brought this issue and it’s really calmed it down. It’s a vote of the people.

JON DELANO: So related to this is the whole issue of contraceptives. Do you support any restrictions on a person’s right to contraception?

DONALD TRUMP: Well, we’re looking at that and I’m going to have a policy on that very shortly. And I think it’s something that you’ll find interesting. And I’d see — it’s another issue that’s very interesting.

But you will, you will find it, I think, very smart. I think it’s a smart decision, but we’ll be releasing it very soon.

JON DELANO: Well, that suggests that that you may want to support some restrictions. Like the morning after pill or something.

DONALD TRUMP: We are also, you know, things really do have a lot to do with the states. And some states are going to have different policies than others.

But I’m coming out within a week or so with a very comprehensive policy, which I’ll get to you immediately.

JON DELANO: Okay, good.

Part 2 on Election Intergrity

https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/vpO799VA

JON DELANO: Final question, Mr. President, and thank you again for your time.

Do you have any concerns that the 2024 election in Pennsylvania will be free, fair and run correctly by the election officials in our 67 counties? And if so, what are those concerns?

DONALD TRUMP: Well, I absolutely do have concerns. Anytime you have mailings and anytime you have the kind of things that they have in Pennsylvania– it’s not concerns. I mean, we just have to stop it.

We’re watching very diligently. It happened, 2020. It was a disaster. What happened in Pennsylvania in 2020.

We won. We we absolutely won Pennsylvania in 2020. And other states as well.

We had Covid. They used Covid to cheat. And that’s one of those things. And everybody knows it. And most of the people in Pennsylvania know too.

It’s going to be much harder for them to cheat, but they will try. It’s a sad thing. It’s a sad commentary for our country, but they will try to cheat.

I think we’re going to win by so much. You know, it’s too big to rig and I think we’re going to win by so much it won’t matter.

But we’ve got to stop them from cheating, or at least keep their cheating down to a minimum. Pretty sad.

We should go to all paper ballots. We should have one day voting one day election and just do it properly. And voter ID, you have to have voter I.D. they don’t want voter ID because they want to cheat.

JON DELANO: Well, how will they cheat? How will the Democrats cheat in Pennsylvania?

DONALD TRUMP: About, 12 different ways? So many ways. If you had all day, I could give you examples.

Well, last time, what they did with the legislatures, they never got approved by the legislatures. They did whatever they wanted to do.

But they also dropped ballots. You see what happened? 2000 mules. Take a look at 2000 mules. You see what happened? They drop ballots into boxes. The bucks, the ballots.

Many of them weren’t even signed. We had cases, many cases where you had more ballots than you had voters.

It’s a very primitive system. It’s a very, very third world system, and not in all states, but in many of the swing states, which are very important for this, very terrible things go on. Very very terrible things–

JON DELANO: Well, not — but the courts didn’t agree with any of the claims with any of the claims.

DONALD TRUMP: Say it again.

JON DELANO: I’m sorry. The courts in Pennsylvania did not seem to agree with any of the claims of anything going wrong in the 2020 election.

DONALD TRUMP: They didn’t have the courage to do what they had to do. They? The courts were very disappointing. They didn’t have the courage to do what they had to do. The claims were there. Everybody knows it.

It was shocking when Pennsylvania was turned down. Turned down. They were turned down on statutory grounds and other grounds. But it was shocking when Pennsylvania was–

JON DELANO: It sounds, Mr. President.

DONALD TRUMP: –and very sad. You’re so they’re going to try again and we’re going to stop them and we’re watching it. We have vast numbers of lawyers in Pennsylvania and other places, but we we can’t, we have to have strong borders and open, free and fair elections.

JON DELANO: Mr. president, it’s great to be with you again. I hope we get a chance to sit down in Pittsburgh when you’re out here sometime.

KDKA will be releasing more of the interview on their newscasts throughout the day.

Still searching for a NV interview.

YIKES!!! Our RPOTUS MUST be supremely confident of victory to take this QUANTUM LEAP of proposing Contraceptive Bans😲

Will endeavor to link the rest of this EXPLOSIVE interview asap, hopefully in FULL!


147 posted on 05/21/2024 12:12:38 PM PDT by edie1960 (7 )
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Both sides considering what “intent to defraud”


148 posted on 05/21/2024 12:15:27 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware
Read it. Thanks.

I want to know if that was simply a standard boilerplate reminder of the FBI policy on deadly force that is attached to every order approving a raid on a residence or public building.

-PJ

149 posted on 05/21/2024 12:15:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

If I recall the details directly after raid Biden claimed to know nothing about raid., but I could be misremembering.


150 posted on 05/21/2024 12:26:11 PM PDT by mware
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bkmk


151 posted on 05/21/2024 12:27:18 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

https://www.predictit.org/ right? The word “politics” is not visible.


152 posted on 05/21/2024 12:27:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Prosecution says Trump has not been charged with conspiracy..(me: well that rules that out)


153 posted on 05/21/2024 12:44:04 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware

Wonder when they will tell us what he has been charged with.?


154 posted on 05/21/2024 12:45:10 PM PDT by mware
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To: mware

>> Wonder when they will tell us what he has been charged with.?

Well, according to the CONSTITUTION, it must be spelled out in the INDICTMENT. Did you look there?
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Kidding!


155 posted on 05/21/2024 12:49:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: mware
That makes me wonder what the whole Pecker testimony was about. I thought Bragg was trying to establish a conspiracy between Cohen, Pecker, and Trump to hide bad news by "buying" the stories and then not printing them, or paying NDAs to people to stay quiet.

Now Bragg is saying no conspiracy charge? Well, technically that's true but only because he's refused to state what crime was being furthered by fraudulent business records.

-PJ

156 posted on 05/21/2024 12:50:08 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: mware
Further, without a conspiracy, they can't bring Trump into the circle of payments at all, since Pecker made the payments in the course of his own business interests.

-PJ

157 posted on 05/21/2024 12:53:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

>> he’s refused to state what crime was being furthered by fraudulent business records

*Being Elected* is the crime President Trump was furthering.

It’s a super-special crime that applies ONLY to Donald J. Trump. (For the time being.)


158 posted on 05/21/2024 12:53:46 PM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

A sidebar on fox news is saying the prosecution is not accusing Trump of conspiracy. I wonder if they will downgrade to lower charge to save something in this case.


159 posted on 05/21/2024 12:54:03 PM PDT by mware
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To: Nervous Tick

A guest on Fox ventures to guess that they are going to “create” A crime.


160 posted on 05/21/2024 12:55:12 PM PDT by mware
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