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Europe says goodbye to natural gas for good: the superturbine that will produce the energy substitute
ecoticias ^ | 05 17 2024 | D. García

Posted on 05/20/2024 6:24:05 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Europe is saying goodbye to natural gas for good with a superturbine that will produce the substitute energy. Although demand for natural gas has fallen in recent years, the continent remains dependent on it as an alternative to coal, a fossil fuel it wants to replace with pure hydrogen. However, to achieve this, a combustion system must first emerge that can work efficiently with any concentration of H mix, including 100%.

Different nations aim to achieve decarbonization through a gradual energy transition. In this search for new alternatives to fossil fuels, hydrogen has many possibilities. Its production for energy purposes is a field of worldwide exploration. Moreover, investment to produce H with low carbon emissions is growing.

Already in 2022, Spain was leading 20% of the world’s new H projects. “Just for context, China’s current consumption is 20 million tons of hydrogen. This is the same amount that Europe needs to produce in 2030 to replace Russian gas,” says Africa Castro, head of business development at the firm H2B2, in the H2 podcast.

Europe has a superturbine to accelerate hydrogen deployment

This is no small thing. Talk of a turbine capable of running on 100% hydrogen is a big word, or at least it was until now. The FLEX4H2 initiative is being funded by the European Union and the Swiss government and has shown that this possibility exists in just one year of research.

The Italian company Ansaldo Energia has developed the GT36 turbine, which has been commissioned in Germany with 100% H concentration. It is an H-class turbine, a sophisticated type of gas turbine designed to achieve extremely high efficiencies and operating temperatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at ecoticias.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloggers; climatechange; climatechangehoax; energy; europe; eussr; fakenews; fourthreich; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy; gt36turbine; hydrogen; naturalgas; superturbine; turbine; turbines
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To: yesthatjallen

The article says that the ‘breakthrough’ is a turbine that runs on 100% hydrogen rather than a mixture cut down with natural gas. The article doesn’t say why it is necessary to dilute the hydrogen with natural gas.

Could it be that pure hydrogen burns too hot and damages the turbine? Could it be that pure hydrogen’s hot burn creates polluting exhaust gases such as the Nitrous Oxides?

The article says, “It uses two complementary methods to achieve the high operating temperatures while maintaining very low emissions and requiring no diluents.”

What are the “complementary methods”.

As other posters have asked, “Where does the hydrogen come from?”


21 posted on 05/20/2024 6:55:56 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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To: devere

“The climate change crisis fraud may be the end of Western civilization.”

That’s the point!

Energy production and manufacturing are the top two priorities of strategic bombing campaigns.

Thank about that!


22 posted on 05/20/2024 6:56:56 AM PDT by Justa
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To: cymbeline

Could it be that pure hydrogen as opposed to a mixture causes too much wear through metal embrittlement!


23 posted on 05/20/2024 6:58:23 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: FLT-bird

We tend to think of natural gas as a fuel, but it’s also the primary feed stock for most chemicals and plastics. Most of Germany’s industry was based on cheap Russian gas.

And over the last few years, the major German chemical companies have been busy moving their facilities to North America, where natural gas is very cheap.


24 posted on 05/20/2024 7:01:55 AM PDT by jdege
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To: PIF

bout 1.3 units of energy required to generate 3.0 ubit of energy from hydrogen


25 posted on 05/20/2024 7:02:50 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: yesthatjallen

But natural gas is so plentiful and so easy to access. Hydrogen is so expensive to produce. Utter stupidity


26 posted on 05/20/2024 7:11:21 AM PDT by montag813
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
As seals wear, it gets worse.

SAVE THE SEALS!!!

please clap...

27 posted on 05/20/2024 7:11:50 AM PDT by null and void (Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you, except our side, of course!)
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To: yesthatjallen
---- "Moreover, investment to produce H with low carbon emissions is growing."

M A R K E T I N G

In this case, marketing by those "explorers" and researchers and developers seeking to mine government funding and potential private investors.

No mention of the laws of thermodynamics and the actual cost to generate hydrogen to use as "fuel."

And then there's "The Italian company Ansaldo Energia has developed the GT36 turbine, which has been commissioned in Germany...." State funds, meaning coming from tax payers and public debt.

This is a mining operation, and the "ore" is funding. Dig deep. Dig hard. Dig fast. And then get out of town when the game is up....

28 posted on 05/20/2024 7:17:48 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: jdege

Yep. Germany has a large chemical industry which is now going to be moved in its entirety to North America.


29 posted on 05/20/2024 7:23:59 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: yesthatjallen

Sigh, another article written by what would appear to be someone for whom STEM meant a part of a plant. Journalism - when studies classes proved too difficult.


30 posted on 05/20/2024 7:29:40 AM PDT by Da Coyote ( )
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To: yesthatjallen

Maybe a bit off topic, but a good illustration of how crazy the energy nazis have become:

Recently bought a small weekend sports car. 36 mpg highway, 28 city.

In the energy section of the window sticker, I was surprised to learn I’ll be paying an average of $1500 more in annual gas costs than the average vehicle of this size.

The “most efficient” vehicle in this class is electric.

They are now including fully electric vehicles in the fuel economy formulas, as if electricity were free.


31 posted on 05/20/2024 7:43:38 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down seven times, stand up eight. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Tell It Right

“Most of the solar radiation converted to power is from invisible light, not the visible light produced by street lights.”

If it’s invisible, is it really “light”?

Asking for my evil twin.


32 posted on 05/20/2024 7:45:06 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: null and void

“SAVE THE SEALS!!!”

That’s it!! That’s the perfect defense against the greeniac lunatics. How can they object to saving little baby seals?


33 posted on 05/20/2024 7:48:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: FLT-bird

In the US, natural gas is almost a waste product, a byproduct of shale oil production.


34 posted on 05/20/2024 7:48:23 AM PDT by jdege
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To: yesthatjallen

This whole article is LA LA LAND


35 posted on 05/20/2024 7:49:03 AM PDT by oil_dude
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To: yesthatjallen

If Europe isn’t consuming it, where is all the nat gas our Deep State is exporting going...


36 posted on 05/20/2024 7:50:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: yesthatjallen
Some food for thought...

The Bundesnetzagentur has today published gas supply figures for the year 2023. Year of issue2024 Date of issue2024.01.04 Gas imports and exports

In the interest of trust but verify, a question: Where is all that nat gas Germany is importing from Norway, Belgium, and the Netherlands produced...?

Inquiring minds want to know.

37 posted on 05/20/2024 7:54:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: PLMerite
If it’s invisible, is it really “light”?

Technically, there are light rays that are beyond the visibility spectrum of us human beings. For example, X-rays, gamma rays, and cosmic rays (drawing on my old comic book reading days LOL) are all light rays -- it's just we can't see them. Every time you get an X-ray it's using light that you can't see.

For solar panels, thought they do use visible light (380nm to 750nm), but most of the electrical power is generated from ultraviolet light and infrared light (invisible to us). However, those light rays are hitting my solar panels at the same time that visible light is. So when I'm able to see bight sunshine hitting my solar panels and I'm reading the amount of kW that my inverters show being generated by the sunshine (presently 11.8kW), in the back of my mind I know it's mainly from light radiation that I can't see.

38 posted on 05/20/2024 8:01:51 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: fuzzylogic

Nobody asks where all the H comes from.


From the county JoeB sold most of our supply to: China


39 posted on 05/20/2024 8:07:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: yesthatjallen
Pure fantasy. The physics and economics illiterate are running the show. It will turn out poorly for the people in Europe as the extremes of Summer heat and Winter cold can't be mitigated by a reliable electric supply.
40 posted on 05/20/2024 8:07:26 AM PDT by Myrddin
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