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Europe says goodbye to natural gas for good: the superturbine that will produce the energy substitute
ecoticias ^ | 05 17 2024 | D. García

Posted on 05/20/2024 6:24:05 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

Europe is saying goodbye to natural gas for good with a superturbine that will produce the substitute energy. Although demand for natural gas has fallen in recent years, the continent remains dependent on it as an alternative to coal, a fossil fuel it wants to replace with pure hydrogen. However, to achieve this, a combustion system must first emerge that can work efficiently with any concentration of H mix, including 100%.

Different nations aim to achieve decarbonization through a gradual energy transition. In this search for new alternatives to fossil fuels, hydrogen has many possibilities. Its production for energy purposes is a field of worldwide exploration. Moreover, investment to produce H with low carbon emissions is growing.

Already in 2022, Spain was leading 20% of the world’s new H projects. “Just for context, China’s current consumption is 20 million tons of hydrogen. This is the same amount that Europe needs to produce in 2030 to replace Russian gas,” says Africa Castro, head of business development at the firm H2B2, in the H2 podcast.

Europe has a superturbine to accelerate hydrogen deployment

This is no small thing. Talk of a turbine capable of running on 100% hydrogen is a big word, or at least it was until now. The FLEX4H2 initiative is being funded by the European Union and the Swiss government and has shown that this possibility exists in just one year of research.

The Italian company Ansaldo Energia has developed the GT36 turbine, which has been commissioned in Germany with 100% H concentration. It is an H-class turbine, a sophisticated type of gas turbine designed to achieve extremely high efficiencies and operating temperatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at ecoticias.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloggers; climatechange; climatechangehoax; energy; europe; eussr; fakenews; fourthreich; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy; gt36turbine; hydrogen; naturalgas; superturbine; turbine; turbines
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1 posted on 05/20/2024 6:24:05 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

And how much energy is needed to produce burnable Hydrogen? Is it a core energy like coal and nuclear?


2 posted on 05/20/2024 6:26:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: yesthatjallen

Haven’t we already reached “peak hydrogen”?


3 posted on 05/20/2024 6:27:38 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: yesthatjallen

SMDH! Perhaps they need to dismantle anything capable of using “FFs” first. Then if and when that ‘unprecedented’ cold wave appears they can feel really good.


4 posted on 05/20/2024 6:28:35 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: PIF

None of course. It runs on unicorn farts


5 posted on 05/20/2024 6:29:26 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: yesthatjallen

Wonder what will happen if they find out that hydrogen is the chemical that helps control the carbon in the atmosphere? And they start using up all the hydrogen?


6 posted on 05/20/2024 6:30:23 AM PDT by Flint
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To: yesthatjallen

You will live in caves and like it!


7 posted on 05/20/2024 6:32:01 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: yesthatjallen

Let me publish my solutions to the power shortage here before someone patents them.

Equip each wind turbine with a diesel motor which can be used to spin the blades to generate electricity when the wind isn’t blowing. For the solar farms, equip them with large banks of floodlights to generate electricity on cloudy days and nights.


8 posted on 05/20/2024 6:32:03 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: yesthatjallen

I’ll believe it when I see it. Until then, Europe is dependent on natural gas.


9 posted on 05/20/2024 6:32:16 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: yesthatjallen

Good, more for us.

Recognizing that if there were such a thing as “man-made global climate change,” and that such a thing would be global, not local, where are all the studies that provide any evidence that anything that has been done and all the money that has been collected (not necessarily spent, of course) in the name of “climate change,” has had any effect at all on the so called climate change?


10 posted on 05/20/2024 6:33:52 AM PDT by MCSETots
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To: PIF

Of course, more energy than you’ll get back from burning it.

I’d be for nuclear to create hydrogen as an energy storage system. Then use it to power vehicles and produce clean drinking water as a byproduct....better than lithium batteries.

Nobody asks where all the H comes from.


11 posted on 05/20/2024 6:34:25 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: yesthatjallen

I think Canada’s Trudeau is building wind-farms to produce Hydrogen that he’ll ship to Europe hoping they’ll buy it ,LOL Wait what do the ships run on and how mush is the shipping ?


12 posted on 05/20/2024 6:35:19 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: yesthatjallen

We better start opening up lots of hydrogen mines. Lots of tough questions:
* How long does it take to open a hydrogen mine?
* How long is the permitting process for a hydrogen mine?
* Are hydrogen mines capital intensive?


13 posted on 05/20/2024 6:35:23 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: yesthatjallen

Insanity. The climate change crisis fraud may be the end of Western civilization.


14 posted on 05/20/2024 6:35:46 AM PDT by devere
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To: yesthatjallen
If they get this working in mass production and countries start depending on it, the left will figure out why it's "bad" for the environment. There is never any satisfying them.

For example, it wasn't too long ago (the Obama years) that the left was saying we all should switch to "clean burning" natural gas. Now they're trying to ban nat. gas, even after they forced many power utilities to switch from coal fired power plants to natural gas fueled power plants.

Likewise with the left's love/hate relationship with nuclear. The left will do the same with hydrogen if it ever gets traction.

15 posted on 05/20/2024 6:36:22 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Toyota has given up on Hydrogen cars for now because there’s no infrastructure and the people that have the cars are screwed


16 posted on 05/20/2024 6:37:27 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: PAR35
For the solar farms, equip them with large banks of floodlights to generate electricity on cloudy days and nights. LOL good one!

Before we installed solar, my wife asked me if a nearby streetlight would give us a wee bit of power at night. The answer is no. Most of the solar radiation converted to power is from invisible light, not the visible light produced by street lights.

17 posted on 05/20/2024 6:39:58 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

We’ll need a lot of little Black kids to catch all that hydrogen.


18 posted on 05/20/2024 6:45:10 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Running Rampant, and not endorsing nonsense; My pronoun is EXIT.)
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To: Tell It Right

“…the left will figure out why it’s “bad” for the environment.”

This is very easy to see coming. It is extremely hard to avoid hydrogen leaks because It is the smallest of all molecules and leaks through seals like crazy. As seals wear, it gets worse. They will discover that letting billions of tons of hydrogen leak into the atmosphere is very bad for the environment and we must transition off hydrogen.


19 posted on 05/20/2024 6:49:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: butlerweave

I think the ships run on wood pellet boilers. They only cut the trees down with hand axes and pull stroke saws.

The ships follow the Gulf Stream from the St. Lawrence back to Scotland and the UK.


20 posted on 05/20/2024 6:55:34 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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