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WHY YOU CAN'T BE AN IRAN HAWK AND A RUSSIA DOVE
Institute for the Study of War ^

Posted on 05/19/2024 2:46:10 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

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To: Allegra

Fact Check: TRUE!


42 posted on 05/19/2024 4:18:17 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: USA-FRANCE

The U.S. shouldn’t be doing things that drives Russia closer to China and strengthens ties between Russia and Iran. Our foreign policy is so misguided that it looks like they’re actually striving for bad outcomes. I don’t think they’re intentionally trying to screw things up. They’re just stupid.


43 posted on 05/19/2024 4:18:31 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
...why not relax and watch a Jerry Lewis movie?

(Professor Julius Kelp) "...and to me, Carbon Dioxide, has always (Buddy Love)...been a gas"...

44 posted on 05/19/2024 4:24:57 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“George Washington warned us about these guys and their foreign entanglements. “

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hm... Well isn’t that ironic...

You do know that George Washington asked for French military help to win Americas war of independence. Right? Than God for the French “NeoCons” back then... Without France’s massive military support for America, America would have been a colony today, and not an independent country.

The French Aristocrat Who Helped George Washington Defeat The British:

Sending the French troops to help America... :

Lafayette’s flamboyant exercises and close relationships in America, coupled with Benjamin Franklin’s diplomatic efforts in Paris, resulted in formal French support: the French Court at Versailles recognized American independence on March 20, 1778. Lafayette returned to Paris that year to seek more concrete French support. He got it: when he returned to America, it was as an official representative of France. The French navy was dispatched in August of 1778; French General Jean Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau (yes, another aristocrat) landed his troops in Rhode Island in 1789, and plotted the strategy to entrap the British at Yorktown, Virginia. Most importantly, despite being better trained, better armed, and more experienced than the Americans, the French military agreed to serve under General Washington. Their target was another aristocrat: British Lieutenant General Lord Charles Cornwallis.

In the end, 16,000 soldiers in three armies (two of them French), two navies (both of them French), covering 1600 miles, commanded by two generals who needed a translator (Lafayette of course) to speak to each other, laid siege to the British and forced the surrender of General Cornwallis at Yorktown. Lafayette was just 24 years old.

Two men, from two different countries and of two different generations, sharing a common commitment to liberty and a commitment to the rights of man, had changed the world.

Complete article :here:https://www.forbes.com/sites/shelliekarabell/2016/07/10/the-french-aristocrat-who-helped-george-washington-defeat-the-british/?sh=7d6d84f315af


45 posted on 05/19/2024 4:29:21 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (The only thing needed for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Darksheare

Now we KNOW you’re a just shill for Moscow. NATO can’t “encroach” on anybody. That’s a Moskovite myth. Nations who want to be members have to ASK to be considered, and even then they may not be accepted. ‘Course it’s no surprise that nations who were under the Russian jackboot up to 1991 would ask, even BEG to be admitted. Funny, that.


46 posted on 05/19/2024 4:39:21 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: USA-FRANCE

“our police in America”

What’s this “our police”? You’re not even an American. Just another warmongering foreigner.


47 posted on 05/19/2024 4:40:35 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: USA-FRANCE
superficially related
48 posted on 05/19/2024 4:41:40 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Nato didn’t encroach?
Really?
How many nations were allied with Russia in Europe between the collapse of the Soviet Union?
Abd how many of the former warsaw pact joined nato?
Yes, NATO did encroach.


49 posted on 05/19/2024 4:41:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Global Woke Enforcement Force.


50 posted on 05/19/2024 4:42:40 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: USA-FRANCE

Get over it, senile Joe’s Ukie war is over- defeated. Time to start Diplomacy, trade and commerce is what people want. US hegemony is dying, the world , China, India, to name a few are tired of the US endless wars.


51 posted on 05/19/2024 4:46:12 PM PDT by delta7
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To: USA-FRANCE
Russian and Iranian military forces have been fighting alongside one another in Syria for nearly a decade.

What an evil alliance this is. Russia and Iran are fighting alongside one another in Syria because the Syrian government has begged them for help … AGAINST A U.S. INVASION AND OCCUPATION.

The nauseating hypocrisy of the U.S. government and its military-corporate-foreign lobbyists in this regard is really over the top.

52 posted on 05/19/2024 4:47:43 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: tennmountainman

No one here supports that here.
Majority here do not support American Tax Dollars propping up Corrupt
YouCrayne.
If you wish to support YouCraynee encourage Macron to send 50,000
French Surrender Monkeys to help YouCrayne.
NOT American Tax Dollars and Weapons.
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Amen. Everyone knows this- senile Joe is infected with the Russian Derangement Syndrome….people are finally waking up. Our corrupted government’s actions are relegating a once strong America to the garbage pale of history….Vote this stench out of office.


53 posted on 05/19/2024 4:51:10 PM PDT by delta7
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To: USA-FRANCE
From the ISW mission statement …

We are committed to improving the nation’s ability to execute military operations and respond to emerging threats in order to achieve U.S. strategic objectives.

You can write these losers off as soon as you see that one of their board members is William Kristol — who would convert to Islam before he’d ever put on a military uniform.

54 posted on 05/19/2024 4:52:34 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Darksheare
...how many of the former warsaw pact joined nato?

Almost all of them begged to be admitted. Wonder why? Not because some evil Westerners held a gun to their heads, that's for sure.

55 posted on 05/19/2024 5:08:29 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: USA-FRANCE
All true, yet George Washington still warned us of foreign entanglements.

Be that as it may, I think you should kick back with a Jerry Lewis video. More fun than a barrel of monkeys! It will take your mind off Putin for a while.

The Bellboy and of course The Nutty Professor are sure to make you chuckle!



56 posted on 05/19/2024 5:08:38 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Robert DeLong

“For you even chose to have a hyphenated moniker, a clear sign of someone who has divided loyalties.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The USA-FRANCE I use as a “hyphenated moniker” (as you say) is based on profound, important and unavoidable shared history America and France have in common.

Without France. No USA. That is what history tells us.
There would be no 1776 without massive French intervention for America.


57 posted on 05/19/2024 5:19:08 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (The only thing needed for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Darksheare

The Russian people are trying to flee Neo-soviet Russia whenever possible.
1,5 million Russians managed to flee their country in the nick of time when the war started.

I support the Russian people and the Ukrainian people.

You seem to support the Russian NeoCon warmongering deep state though. The forever war machine...

Why don’t you at the very least support the Russian people instead?


58 posted on 05/19/2024 5:26:19 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (The only thing needed for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

And NATO expanded eastward encroaching on Russia.


59 posted on 05/19/2024 5:26:46 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: USA-FRANCE

Right.
Keep telling yourself that.


60 posted on 05/19/2024 5:27:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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