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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Nato didn’t encroach?
Really?
How many nations were allied with Russia in Europe between the collapse of the Soviet Union?
Abd how many of the former warsaw pact joined nato?
Yes, NATO did encroach.


49 posted on 05/19/2024 4:41:50 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Darksheare
...how many of the former warsaw pact joined nato?

Almost all of them begged to be admitted. Wonder why? Not because some evil Westerners held a gun to their heads, that's for sure.

55 posted on 05/19/2024 5:08:29 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Darksheare

The Russian people are trying to flee Neo-soviet Russia whenever possible.
1,5 million Russians managed to flee their country in the nick of time when the war started.

I support the Russian people and the Ukrainian people.

You seem to support the Russian NeoCon warmongering deep state though. The forever war machine...

Why don’t you at the very least support the Russian people instead?


58 posted on 05/19/2024 5:26:19 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (The only thing needed for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Darksheare; Chad C. Mulligan; USA-FRANCE; Vermont Lt; dfwgator; blitz128; marcusmaximus; ...

Apparently you do not understand the difference between “NATO encroachment” and countries formerly conquered or occupied by Russia fleeing to NATO with great enthusiasm—Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Checks and Slovaks, Hungary, East Germany, and many others (which I can’t necessarily spell correctly ;-) ).

This enthusiasm was displayed to the world with the rapid reduction of the great wall between East and West Germany to a pile of rubble, and souvenir fragments. I vividly remember people’s response with this great celebration. Perhaps you are too young to remember that great day, or maybe you were living in a country that would not allow you to see such a positive embrace of Western Europe.

I noticed with interest the story today of the attempted assassination of the the Russia-favoring Slovak leader. I do not know the status of this man’s life now (dead or alive), but it certainly indicates that however he gained power, others are not at all enthusiastic about him. Did he suggest Slovakia should leave NATO??

I decided to try to find an article not strongly linked with either Europe or Russia. The Al Jazeera link below seems to give a fairly even handed portrayal of the situation in Slovakia over the past few decades. Be sure to go past the frequent advertising as this is a long interesting article that will not make everyone here happy, whether they are pro Ukraine or pro Putin.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/17/assassination-attempt-opens-slovakias-wounds-some-linked-to-pm-fico


94 posted on 05/20/2024 1:50:33 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority.)
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To: Darksheare
Nato didn't encroach?
Really?

You're right! Russia is the perfect neighbor. Never did nuffin' to nobody.

Poor Russia, everybody is always so mean to her. Sniff

102 posted on 05/20/2024 6:13:31 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Darksheare
Nato didn’t encroach?
Really?
How many nations were allied with Russia in Europe between the collapse of the Soviet Union?
Abd how many of the former warsaw pact joined nato?
Yes, NATO did encroach.


And all of those nations didn't want Russia making political decisions for them, that's why they became independent instead of annexing themselves into Russia. Their objective was to get further from Russia, not closer to the bear.

And who cares? Declaring war (sorry, special military operation) on your neighbors because they want to make friends with some other guys isn't a legitimate way to run international relations. Fear of Russian invasion is one of the big things that pushed Ukraine to want NATO membership in the first place!
106 posted on 05/20/2024 7:52:29 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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