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To: vladimir998
Indulgences - at least those actually authorized by the Church - did not, nor could not, “sell salvation”.

Suggested reading: https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1902/medieval-indulgence--martin-luther/

14 posted on 05/17/2024 7:50:07 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

“Suggested reading:”

Right back at ya’ :

https://www.catholic.com/tract/myths-about-indulgences

https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Guide-Indulgences-Rediscovering-Often-Misinterpreted/dp/1595250247

And unless you’ve read this, you really have no idea of what you’re talking about: https://archive.org/details/MN42034ucmf_5/page/n1/mode/2up?ref=ol&view=theater

I read it nearly 30 years ago. Made me realize how many lies we’re told in a Protestant country.


23 posted on 05/17/2024 3:36:47 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: JesusIsLord

There are five major falsehoods in the first sentences:

1) The medieval indulgence was a writ.

No, it had absolutely nothing to do with any writs or any documents of any kind. It was merely a claim with no earthly legal significance.

2) offered by the Church, for money,

No, the Church itself had absolutely, completely, emphatically, universally and irrevocably condemned the sale of indulgences before Luther.

3) guaranteeing

No, the basic theology of indulgences, in fact, required a sincerely contrite heart and resolve to avoid sin, without which, the indulgence is meaningless

4) guaranteeing

Does the author even know what “guarantee” means? Maybe he means “assuring” or “asserting?” How would anyone even fulfill such a guarantee?

5) the remission of sin,

No, Jesus’s sacrifice one the cross is sufficient for the remission of sin; an indulgence merely relieved certain consequences of sin, specifically, the need for purgartion.

Frankly, I’m wondering what your source here is; I thought maybe it was related to those old World Encyclopedias, but the article not only seems based purely on common misconceptions and no actual research, but is even sloppily written enough that as a former teacher, I’d’ve filled it with red pen and told the seventh-grade student who completed it to do a better job and maybe they could get better than a “C” this time.


38 posted on 05/19/2024 5:39:03 AM PDT by dangus
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