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To: Red Badger

What puzzles me - why are the states of the Sahel in Africa choosing Russia and China en masse, and kicking out the USA and France?

They can offer money, we can offer money

they can offer payoffs, we can offer payoffs

They can offer weapons, we can offer weapons

They can offer military training, we can offer military training

They can offer travel, passports, and offshore banks, we can offer travel, passports and offshore banks

There is something else there which is unclear - perhaps Western involvement necessarily comes with other attachments and requirements - which are NOT interesting to these leaders in Africa?


27 posted on 05/02/2024 9:45:16 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Russia and China tolerate corruption, as it is a part of their own culture. It’s expected and counted as a cost of doing business. The US does not, to a great extent, at least publicly. ....................


29 posted on 05/02/2024 9:49:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: PGR88

From what I understand the US has lost its reputation as the good guy.

For one thing the US State department has pushing the homosexual agenda worldwide mostly through our embassies and consulates. Africa, with the exception of South Africa, rejects that lifestyle as immoral.

China/Russia/Iran/and other countries have been using their PR machines labeling the US as a warmonger nation always pushing our way of life upon others.That and other diplomatic practices, such as engineering revolutions, have over just a few years turned non-western nations away from the US. Nuland, our ace diplomat, outside the US is the most unpopular


38 posted on 05/02/2024 11:23:53 AM PDT by elpadre
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Yes, our state dept threatened to basically ruin their economies with sanctions if they allowed the russians to set up base there. they leaders of those nations don’t take kindly to threats and told them to leave, they were no longer welcome after the threats.


39 posted on 05/02/2024 11:24:26 AM PDT by Waverunner
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