Posted on 04/30/2024 4:02:07 PM PDT by hardspunned
The Israeli Air Force is set to bid farewell to its aging Patriot missile defense systems in the coming months, replacing the batteries with more advanced air defenses, the military said Tuesday.
In February, the IAF said it was in the process of closing several Patriot batteries, and its staff would be trained to operate the Iron Dome instead.
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Yeah probably the biggest threat is a nuke in space that can be just dropped and depend on gravity. Just a falling nuke with no propulsion just a kinetic delivery. No way to stop that.
MIRV. Old hat, everyone has had them since the 60’s. The current US one is Trident II.
As for stealth interceptors, also an old idea. As also decoy systems, maneuvering warheads, etc. All part of the game.
They possibly can be detected and stopped. These will have to be deorbited with a rocket burn, and have to go through reentry.
I don’t know if the sensors currently exist that can detect this effectively. But whoever does know isn’t telling.
Well my point is, if they have them them, the missile defense systems, like Patriot, would be obsolete and it seems like an admission by the government in a round about way.
Well it’s the same way meteor strikes suddenly happen. The same principal.
ever hear the rumor that the US has a system, Rods from God, same kind of thing
Why would Patriot (or Standard or THAAD) be obsolete? They are area weapons and they can intercept warheads (depending on conditions).
ABM systems are getting better all the time.
well missile defense depends on radar being able to detect the target. If it is stealth, the system is useless
The “rods” thing is an old speculation.
Invented by Jerry Pournelle @60 years ago. I’m an old Pournelle fan.
Pournelle was pushing it for decades. I’ve heard nothing about that being deployed. But it comes up regularly.
It’s also going to have an IR signature, given the speed and energy involved.
But it’s all speculation at this point.
well thunk about what they have done. Remember them shooting down Chinese balloons and other things? That indicates they have really stopped up trying to detect things in the air.
Ive had the honor to meet Pournelle several times. We never discussed “rods” though. We also corresponded when he had his “Byte” magazine column. Brilliant guy. The sort where one just sat and listened.
Yeah the idea is sound but that would require a good amount of fast math. Oh. Yeah. Now they are pushing A.I.
They had detected it, they just ignored it, deeming the contact unimportant.
Sort of like the Army radar system at Pearl Harbor.
I have to say i really like the idea. I dunno if it’s true but I wouldn’t put it past the Government. They are so far out of control the constitution is nothing to them, They do what they want.
well suddenly they were detecting small private drones. They have really stepped it up.
I dont know if AI has much to do with it (who knows), but computers are indeed vastly than before, better at calculating trajectories, etc.
I used to work with a UC Berkeley Astrophysicist, who specialized in orbital dynamics. We hired him to do curve fitting algorithms for inspecting parts with complex curves. A very similar problem, and he was upbeat about ABM systems (given the requisite computing power).
Yeah., Dropping a warhead from space and depending on gravity to hit the correct target would require really complex math and with A.I. it’s now possible.
I doubt very much any system could detect, correctly, falling metal with no heat signatures from propulsion.
Keeping in mind the government was squawking about Russia and China putting nukes in space.
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