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FTC Announces Rule Banning Noncompetes
Federal Trade Commission ^ | 23 April 2024 | Federal Trade Commission

Posted on 04/24/2024 5:16:43 AM PDT by CodeToad

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To: CodeToad

You do? When, where, how? I do not know you.


21 posted on 04/24/2024 6:03:20 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: M Kehoe

Does this mean Snowden is free and clear? All he did was change jobs. From working for the US to working for Russia. The Chinese will be ecstatic over this rule. Spying is now legal.


22 posted on 04/24/2024 6:05:04 AM PDT by BipolarBob (About my confusion. Dementia ain't just a river in Egypt. Just saying.)
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To: Reno89519

We crossed paths in a professional circle. I just happened upon a little business ad of yours. You weave a fine tale on FR, but your trolling is easy to spot.


23 posted on 04/24/2024 6:06:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Reno89519

Reno, you have been outed as a troll by someone who knows you personally. Begone.


24 posted on 04/24/2024 6:14:35 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: CodeToad
protecting the fundamental freedom of workers to change jobs, increasing innovation, and fostering new business formation. . .

Such as when "workers" (isn't that a Marxist word for them?) photocopy or phone-swipe reams of stats and trade secrets and bring them to a new company or venture for bonus compensation?

I always have found non-compete clauses an annoying idea to my personal self-interest. But so what? This decision is plainly unconstitutional over-reach. If you don't like that clause in the contract, your choice is to negotiate it away--or work somewhere else. There's no gun to your head.

25 posted on 04/24/2024 6:32:34 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: BipolarBob

Yep.

5.56mm


26 posted on 04/24/2024 6:33:56 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go. )
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To: SamuraiScot

There is a bit of a gun to people’s heads. When the entire industry demands them you end up with little to no choice. I never signed a non-compete that I couldn’t live with, and I did walk away from a few positions because of it. Sadly, they have become commonplace now when 30 years ago I only ran into a few.

The old case law had limits that had to be for a few years, 5 at most typically, and within a geographic location, although some companies were national or global. Now, companies want permanent bans and global. I’ve even seen some that stated not working for an entire industry like engineering. “Can’t be an engineer for anyone, anyplace, and forever.”


27 posted on 04/24/2024 6:58:38 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: CodeToad

This is unfair to businesses, and done by fiat. It needs to be reversed by SCOTUS.


28 posted on 04/24/2024 7:04:45 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: CodeToad

Noncompetes are a widespread and often exploitative practice imposing contractual conditions that prevent workers from taking a new job.

Isn’t that how D.C. operates now the nation has to lower it’s standards pure liberalism in action.

Illegals have now options too they can bring a weed eater to the office.


29 posted on 04/24/2024 7:12:00 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: CodeToad

“Massive change to law through regulation and not legislation.”

Progressivism has been this for over 120 years now.


30 posted on 04/24/2024 7:28:37 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: circlecity

A noncompete agreement between a business and its managing partners is absolutely essential to the existence of the business.


31 posted on 04/24/2024 7:29:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: CodeToad

This action by the FTC demonstrates why ALL federal regulations should not arise under the sole authority of the federal agencies. Every regulation should begin as no more than a proposal to Congress, and as a proposal that it should require the entire House and Senate legislative process (put before appropriate committees, voted up or down in the committees, offered from the committees to the full House and/or Senate body, with amendments accepted and needing an up or down vote by the full House and Senate) in order to become law, not a Congreessional rubber stamp over an agencies new entry in a federal register.


32 posted on 04/24/2024 7:32:39 AM PDT by Wuli ( )
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To: nwrep

SCOTUS is unlikely to uphold noncompete agreements because they’re usually one sided agreements that provide no benefit to separated employees.

Going forward if a company really wants to have a non-compete agreement in place then what they need to do is say, for instance, that after you leave the company you cannot work in that industry for twelve months.

The benefit to the employee then has to be twelve months of compensation.

That would arguably pass muster because both parties benefit and not just one.

What does not pass muster here is when an employer separates an employee and then says that for a period of time or perhaps indefinitely the employee is still subject to the rules of the employer.

That is employment without compensation...also know as slavery, a 13th Amendment violation.


33 posted on 04/24/2024 7:38:40 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: MeganC
SCOTUS is unlikely to uphold noncompete agreements because they’re usually one sided agreements that provide no benefit to separated employees.

SCOTUS would not rule on the merits of noncompete agreements.

SCOTUS would rule on the constitutionality of having a Federal agency impose its will on matters of law that are reserved to the states. And contract law is absolutely a state matter, not a Federal one.

34 posted on 04/24/2024 7:43:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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What does not pass muster here is when an employer separates an employee and then says that for a period of time or perhaps indefinitely the employee is still subject to the rules of the employer.

That is a false premise (bolded). Non-competes are never for involuntary separation (layoffs). Only for voluntary separation.

35 posted on 04/24/2024 7:44:55 AM PDT by nwrep
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Let me amend my previous statement. Non-competes can be for accepting an involuntary separation package. But they can never be for involuntary separation without a separation package. So the separation package is compensation.


36 posted on 04/24/2024 7:46:49 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: FlyingEagle

Even Congress cannot impair private contracts without Due Process. I predict reversal by the SCOTUS.


37 posted on 04/24/2024 7:49:50 AM PDT by anton
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To: CodeToad
Many businesses use non-compete clauses because they don't want to train their competitors.

The question is whether the worker was hired because they already had a unique skill set that the company desired, or if the worker was new and the company invested in them by training them to do the job?

Nobody wants a newly trained worker to leave the company after 9-12 months and take their newly-gained knowledge to a competitor.

-PJ

38 posted on 04/24/2024 7:53:13 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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“SCOTUS would rule on the constitutionality of having a Federal agency impose its will on matters of law that are reserved to the states. And contract law is absolutely a state matter, not a Federal one.”

1. SCOTUS and any other Federal court will generally rule on whatever the hell they want to.

2. SCOTUS might not rule directly on contract law but where contract law violates established civil rights then they will.


39 posted on 04/24/2024 7:54:47 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: nwrep

“That is a false premise (bolded). Non-competes are never for involuntary separation (layoffs). Only for voluntary separation.”

Up until this ruling the state of Texas allowed noncompete agreements (NCA) even if an employee was terminated.

https://bergplummer.com/blog/non-competes/what-happens/

“Non-competes are still valid even if you’re fired from your job. The agreement is more focused on what happens after you leave an employer, regardless of the circumstances, so it still applies. Whether you were let go for legally invalid reasons is another matter, such as if you were discriminated against or retaliated against.”


40 posted on 04/24/2024 8:04:54 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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