Posted on 04/22/2024 9:22:10 AM PDT by Vendome
Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin is tarnished as a result of Russia’s unprovoked invasion and occupation of Ukraine. Xi has been distancing China from Putin’s predations gradually — out of deference to his two biggest customers, the United States and European Union.
But on Sept. 15 his displeasure about the war became public. Putin himself admitted at a press conference following a meeting with Xi that China had “concerns” about his war in Ukraine. So did India.
But there is one more elephant in the room: Siberia, a region bigger and richer than any place on Earth, with resources that underpin Putin’s economy. It is Asian, not European, and one day will mostly fall into China’s hands. Xi knows this and needn’t lift a finger to speed along this outcome. To some, a Chinese takeover of Siberia may seem preposterous. But Putin’s flailing war against the West increases the odds that the Russian Federation itself may atomize.
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“Australian aboriginal people love the taste of Chinese.”
But they’ll be hungry again in an hour.
I would be REALLY surprised if we backed one of these horses in a war financially. First, there would be fallout ... like real nuclear fallout, and we don’t want that on American soil. America could not support Russia in the current political climate, and I don’t think we could support China either. Watched a news report last night on China, and their economy is in a serious predicament right now. War might be Xi’s ticket to distract the populace from the massive number of defaults on government loans in their economy, but we really don’t want to bail China out, because they are our biggest economic competitor.
Yes, I meant “no hesitation.”
Because Red China can.
Yes, what too few understand is China has spent 40 years studying why the USSR failed. They don’t make the same mistakes.
The USSR waved nukes around and thought that would win the world to communism.
China waves dollar bills around. It is a far more effective strategy and much harder for us to counter.
The Great Wall of China was built to keep the nutcases in, not other people out.
LOL The clueless one here is you. Let me guess, you think the Ukes are winning too....
I have no doubt at all that there is a lot of corruption....that goes for logging, mining, etc etc. I'm sure Putin would crack down if it were too outrageous but I can totally buy that for a few bribes people can get away with ignoring environmental regulations, taking more than they're entitled to, smuggling, etc. There just isn't going to be any large land invasion or open takeover of areas from a country that has a massive nuclear stockpile.
How it will happen is at some point the Putin regime will fall. No ruler last forever. In that moment there will be considerable disorder in Russia.
China will send a million troops across the border to “help restore order” in the Russian Far East. They aren’t invading. They are just there to help and safeguard the resource supplies China depends on.
Before Russia can do anything a huge swath of its territory is under de facto Chinese control. A couple decades later it will be officially annexed to China.
“Russia’s DNA is flawed and based on human rights abuses of its own people and others, oligarchy greed, total dictatorship and a delusional aim to recreate the Soviet Union.”
Perfect analysis!
“The only thing stopping them is the massive Russian nuclear arsenal.”
Russia’s nuclear arsenal is unlikely to be in any better condition than “Russia’s 12,000-strong fleet of tanks” they claimed to have back in 2020.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russia-has-twice-many-tanks-america-does-it-matter-166338
Yes, the Russians still have functional nuclear weapons. But they haven’t built a single new nuclear weapon nor have they reprocessed a single nuclear core ever since the nuclear disaster at their Mayak facility in 2017.
Mayak remains unrepaired due to sanctions and the clock is ticking on Russia’s days as a nuclear superpower. Most Russian nuclear cores lose their viability after ten years and that means 2027 will be a crucial year for the Russian nuclear forces.
After that date the functionality of their weapons will be questionable at best.
In any case, the number of functional Russian nukes is mathematically declining. It’s a simple function of time.
Add to this the fact that nukes are expensive to own and maintain (which is why Canada gave up their nukes) and the odds are that corrupt Russian leaders and generals are squandering the massive amount of funding for nuclear forces on other things like superyachts and palaces.
China no doubt is biding their time for the right moment and when it comes Russia will be incapable of deterring China’s rightful reincorporation of their Siberian lands.
Communist China will move on Siberia the day after the Second American Civil War ends with the permanent dissolution of the United States of America, and not until then.
You're chugging the Deep State Kool-Aid. That will never happen. Russia will never allow a large number of Chinese troops on their territory regardless. Nobody in charge, nobody who even hopes to one day be in charge in Russia would ever allow that.
No one in Russia will have a chance to say yes or no.
They will wake up one morning and discover Chinese forces have already infiltrated across the large stretches of border Russia does not have the resources to watch. The PLA will use the same unmarked roads and bridges the Chinese illegal immigrants are using by the thousands to transport people and goods through the region.
So did the Soviet Union and they still lost territory.
Again, Deep State fantasies. Its not hard to monitor a border if you actually want to. The Russians are simply not going to allow the Chinese to invade and make off with vast swathes of their territory. They'll use their nukes. China knows this which is why they're not going to try it.
the Soviet Union broke up into its constituent parts. It was not invaded by a foreign power.
No.
China is moving its people into that region. At some point
it becomes Chinese top-heavy.
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