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Mike Johnson’s Shockingly Pro-Ukraine Speech Really Sticks It to MAGA
New Republic ^ | April 19, 2024 | Greg Sargent

Posted on 04/19/2024 9:13:17 AM PDT by Kazan

The House speaker’s comments wrecked one of the far right’s most ridiculous, reprehensible tropes.

It was a remarkable moment: After introducing a package of bills that includes military aid to Ukraine, Mike Johnson flatly told reporters on Wednesday that enabling Ukraine to defend itself is in the best interests of America and the world. This surprised a lot of people who had wrongly assumed the House speaker was effectively functioning as a stooge for Vladimir Putin—and Donald Trump—and would thus slow-walk Ukraine aid to death before ever allowing a vote on it.

Johnson’s new stance has attracted a good deal of positive attention. But I want to highlight an aspect of it that’s been overlooked because it’s an important tell about the true state of MAGA ideology and what it’s demanding of Republicans these days.

“I really do believe the intel and the briefings that we’ve gotten,” Johnson said, in a moment that became a mini-speech. “I think that Vladimir Putin would continue to march through Europe if he were allowed. I think he might go to the Balkans next. I think he might have a showdown with Poland, or one of our NATO allies.” If so, he added, we might find ourselves sending troops to defend allies from Putin later.

Did we really hear the speaker say that he believes what our intelligence services have told him about the long-term consequences of cutting off aid to Ukraine?

This is a direct challenge to the MAGA worldview in multiple ways. Johnson is treating Putin as the aggressor in the Russia-Ukraine conflict and acknowledging his broader imperialist designs, which is heresy to some MAGA Republicans. But he’s also flatly declaring that on these matters, the deep state is very much to be believed.

A big MAGA conceit is the idea that a nefarious deep-state network of senior federal bureaucrats, nongovernmental experts, and technocratic and managerial elites lurks behind the push to fund Ukraine—and that it’s making up lies about Russia’s war to create a pretext to fulfill a broader set of sinister globalist aims. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene recently tweeted this:

The Ukraine scam is up.

If our Republican majority in Congress funds Joe Biden’s war against Russia on behalf of Ukraine (because he’s a puppet on strings) then Republicans are tools of the foreign war loving deep state.

This is probably MAGA’s most elaborate exercise in up-is-down totalitarian-style propaganda of all: Biden is being manipulated by a deep-state “scam”—i.e., the idea that Ukraine is worth defending—to carry out a war against Russia, which has been magically transformed from aggressor to victim.

The horrible atrocities against Ukraine the world has witnessed, Putin’s declarations that the sovereign democracy of Ukraine isn’t a real country and shouldn’t exist, the consequent effort to erase it with murderous conquest—all of that disappears in this fog of MAGA propaganda. This sort of thing is why even some senior Republicans suggest that a number of House GOP lawmakers are operating under the influence of Russia.

Johnson’s affirmation that he believes our intelligence services on these matters is a direct rebuke to those MAGA tendencies.

The bills that GOP leaders have introduced—which are scheduled for votes on Saturday—are also surprisingly faithful to the intel agencies’ apparent understanding of this geopolitical moment. They include $61 billion in aid to Ukraine, $26 billion for Israel, funding for Taiwan, and humanitarian assistance, including for victims in Gaza, which is essential to winning the support of Democrats who will be needed when right-wing Republicans oppose the package.

Greene had threatened to hold a motion-to-vacate vote to oust Johnson if he moved forward with Ukraine aid. If so, there are signs that Democrats will vote to save Johnson if Ukraine aid passes. Either way, Johnson appears prepared to brave MAGA’s fury—and the word of U.S intelligence services is a key reason for it.

To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with healthy skepticism of what our intelligence services are saying. That’s reasonable. After all, they contributed to whipping up the ultimately false assertions about weapons of mass destruction that helped justify the Iraq War.

But reasoned skepticism is not what MAGA Republicans are offering. Instead, they’re pushing carefully choreographed propaganda that seeks to entirely erase Russian agency from the story of the conflict and to transform Ukraine’s allies into the true warmongers here.

Greene’s effort at this is obvious. Then you have Donald Trump Jr., who tweeted that the aid bills will “hurt my father’s ability to negotiate an end to the war between Russia and Ukraine” if he’s reelected president, whereas “globalist” Republicans who support the package want indefinite war.

But that’s absurd. As international relations professor Nicholas Grossman shows, the idea behind rhetoric like this—a ruse that other MAGA Republicans regularly employ—is to recast our choice as one between “peace” (which we’d attain by refraining from aiding Ukraine) and “war” (which we’re facilitating with Ukraine aid). In reality, withholding aid is not antiwar at all; it merely makes Russian conquest more likely to continue and succeed (which is perhaps the whole point of this framing).

Even supposedly shrewder MAGA Republicans play a version of this sleazy game. Ohio Senator J.D. Vance recently wrote a New York Times op-ed arguing that Ukraine is losing and our aid won’t give it what it needs in equipment (or soldiers) to prevail. Democrats have effectively rebutted those claims. But Vance also slips into his piece the idea that in providing aid, “we”—meaning the United States—would “prolong a long and bloody war,” and suggests the primary obstacle to peace is President Biden’s unwillingness to negotiate toward it.

But how does Vance himself envision the war ending? Couldn’t it mean Russia gobbles up much or even all of Ukraine? Vance doesn’t say, beyond insisting we should forget about Ukraine regaining all of its stolen territory. Thus he too frames the choice as one between peace (ending aid) and war (continuing it). Presto: Opposing the package suddenly becomes the antiwar position, and being for the package becomes the pro-war one. That’s slippery, dishonest rhetorical trickery that you’d think is below Times standards.

This is the sort of deceitfulness that Johnson has effectively taken on. By affirming what abandoning Ukraine would really mean, and stressing that the deep state is telling lawmakers the truth about it, Johnson has for the time being taken a stance against one of MAGA’s most cherished—and most toxic—propaganda tropes. No wonder Greene is beside herself with rage.


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To: Kazan
The House speaker’s comments wrecked one of the far right’s most ridiculous, reprehensible tropes.

NOPE! It reinforces my resolve at this issue.

21 posted on 04/19/2024 9:28:03 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Kazan

Fox, Hannity, & Friends will rush in to defend Traitor Mike Johnson.

Gringrich & co. said, of course, no Republican Speaker would use the Dems to pass legislation against the will of the Right.

Here we are. Uniparty Leader Johnson has big plans.


22 posted on 04/19/2024 9:28:27 AM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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To: linMcHlp

“Three separate bills, each dedicated only to: 1) Israel”

Israel can sell war bonds. Israel is not poor.


23 posted on 04/19/2024 9:29:05 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: DouglasKC

Must of been some briefing since they always tell the truth. I wonder if it included Trump/ Russia collusion?


24 posted on 04/19/2024 9:29:25 AM PDT by ARW
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To: TheConservativeBanker

Apparently, Soros and Klaus bought another political hack who just happens to be Speaker of the House


25 posted on 04/19/2024 9:30:10 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: jpp113

“Six ways to Sunday”


26 posted on 04/19/2024 9:30:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kazan

Mike Johnson is a total sellout and traitor. Unfortunately we are probably stuck with him until at least January.


27 posted on 04/19/2024 9:31:13 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Alter Kaker; Kazan; Skywise
Blame everyone but Putin...

Of course, that's how FR's Putin apologists operate

Everyone is to blame for this war ... *EXCEPT* the one guy who actually attacked & invaded a sovereign country without any provocation

Hitler could only dream about getting this kind of cover!!


28 posted on 04/19/2024 9:32:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: Brian Griffin

I understand your point.

But we need to see the politicians vote for 3 separate bills, in order to reveal their individual positions on each:

1) Israel
2) Ukraine
3) U.S. border


29 posted on 04/19/2024 9:32:48 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Kazan

We must have broad, bursting veins of untapped moneygoldoil in the Rockies or Alaska where we can solve all of the world’s problems but our own with colossal aid packages hurled staight outa DC.


30 posted on 04/19/2024 9:33:04 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: All

Woke Gen Milley’s protege gave him a briefing from Docs in Joe’s garage, and he’s floored.

Countdown to - it’s responsible to raise Taxes.

How can they not?


31 posted on 04/19/2024 9:33:10 AM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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To: Kazan

I see that your leader Putin is really panicked now good.

Of course president Trump understands the aid will be passed for Ukraine which is why he said it’s important that Ukraine survive.

Mike Johnson is not our enemy but you are our enemy.

Anyone who listens to a piece of garbage like you deserves what happens to them because you are here to destroy the United States.


32 posted on 04/19/2024 9:33:49 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Tell It Right

Zackly.


33 posted on 04/19/2024 9:33:51 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Kazan

There are things that I suspect are true:
1) Obama and Biden are 100% responsible for the deaths in Ukraine. They should have left it alone.
2)Putin, emboldened by his victories in Ukraine, will go to other Nations and attack. That will eventually lead to Poland.
3) Obama and Biden NATO policies have weakened western Europe to a point that they can not self defend.
4) Trump was correct about the need for NATO nations to pay their fair share.

Things I suspect, but am not sure are true:
1. Ukraine doesn’t have the resources in people, to fight a prolonged war with Russia.
2. Biden had his chance to keep Russia out of Ukraine by giving it the air power it needed last summer, 400 combat aircraft would have made Russia withdraw.
3. I doubt that pouring money into Ukraine will change the outcome for Ukraine.

The Ukraine war needs to end. Either you give Ukraine the air-power, shells, and vehicles it needs to fight the war, or you force it to the peace tables.


34 posted on 04/19/2024 9:35:03 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan (Repeatedl)
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To: Kazan

Russia will march through Europe when it can’t even march through Ukraine that has a much inferior military?


35 posted on 04/19/2024 9:35:36 AM PDT by odawg
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To: odawg

The Poles would kick their ass.


36 posted on 04/19/2024 9:36:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Hey Canuck, spend your own d— money.


37 posted on 04/19/2024 9:36:32 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Zeepers are leftist morons.


38 posted on 04/19/2024 9:36:53 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Kazan

Consider the source. Leftist rag magazine.


39 posted on 04/19/2024 9:37:04 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DesertRhino

Any support of Ukraine is investing in the greatest Corruption of everything on this planet that has ever existed.

America no longer exports Freedom and Democracy (so-called), all we export now is one and only one thing:

CORRUPTION


40 posted on 04/19/2024 9:37:21 AM PDT by R0CK3T
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