Posted on 04/08/2024 4:34:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
Russia has used a powerful thermobaric weapon, the ODAB-1500 bomb, for the first time in the conflict, hitting the village of Velyka Pysarivka in the Sumy region, reports the German tabloid Bild.
The explosion of the ODAB-1500 bomb is reported to have created a smoke cloud reaching a height of one kilometer. This Soviet-era thermobaric device releases a flammable liquid in aerosol form approximately ten meters from the target before ignition, resulting in a devastating blast.
In previous attacks within Ukraine, Russian forces had used smaller variants of the ODAB, ranging from 170 to 500 kilograms. The deployment of the 1.5-ton bomb in the Sumy region marked a significant escalation in firepower compared to the earlier models.
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Nailed it. Best chance for Biden to win in 2024 is a war with Russia.
I don't know about that particular target, however, thermobarics are particularly deadly to personnel in spite of cover or fortifications.
maybe that was one of those places with a CIA bunker
***us sending cluster bombs to the Ukies***
The Russians were already using cluster bombs against civilian targets FFS. The Ukies guaranteed to only use them on the battlefield.
***or the UK sending uranium artillery shells.***
Depleted Uranium tank rounds for the Challenger 2 MBT to use against Russian tanks (standard UK armour piercing ammunition). The Russians were already using DU tank rounds so what difference did they make?
***back in early 2022 when Putin was ready for a deal and you sent Boris Johnson to stop it all.***
Kremlin propaganda. Boris Johnson did not stop a peace deal. The Ukrainians rejected it because it was terrible for them.
Oh sure! That's worked out really well for the Ukies/US/NATO. We're still pouring money down a rat/homo hole, looking for more money, and trying to scrounge up more military equipment to ship to the Ukie/Zelensky eviscerating machine.
Smart. Real smart. You idot.
***Oh sure! That’s worked out really well for the Ukies/US/NATO.***
I guess the Ukies were relying on all the empty promises the USA made to them previously about not hanging them out to dry if the Russians invaded them. Big mistake there!
***We’re still pouring money down a rat/homo hole, looking for more money, and trying to scrounge up more military equipment***
Sorry, “homo hole”? Are you feeling OK?
***to ship to the Ukie/Zelensky eviscerating machine.***
Put the blame on Putin where it belongs. Russia invaded Ukraine. Zelensky is of Jewish-Russian origin. To suggest that he is a Nazi as the Kremlin does is utterly ludicrous.
***Smart. Real smart. You idot.***
So your solution is to reward Russia’s criminal behaviour by allowing them to roll over Ukraine, torture/rape/murder the people there with impunity and take what they want? And you think they won’t have a go at another neighbouring country after they do that? Presumably, you just don’t care, because, homos!
From the UK perspective we’ve sent them every tank we can spare and more missiles than we really could spare. The problem with “give it all to them and they can fight Russia so we don’t have to” is that if we leave ourselves woefully under-defended that would be a massive problem if they fail to halt the Russian expansion westwards, which thanks to the USA’s indifference is now a real possibility.
Russkies have every right to protect their land -- just like we did in the 1960s by invading and blockading Cuba.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
So, if Russia and China placed missiles on our borders with Mexico and Canada, we just sit there and watch.
You still don't know what you're talking about!
You finally got something right!
Big mistake for Boris and Zelensky to stop the agreement that was practically ready to be signed.
Just one of so very many incoherent moves by US/NATO/Ukies.
In other words, repeats of....
-Vietnam
-Iraq
-Afghanistan
-Syria
-etc.
***Russkies have every right to protect their land — just like we did in the 1960s by invading and blockading Cuba. ... So, if Russia and China placed missiles on our borders with Mexico and Canada, we just sit there and watch.***
Russia is not protecting its land. It has carved a land corridor to Crimea out of Ukraine and has the intention to take much more of Ukraine’s territory. Ukraine was no threat to Russian territory. It gave up all its nuclear weapons, SRBMs, cruise missiles and strategic bombers at Russia’s behest. What kind of aggressive enemy does that?
***Big mistake for Boris and Zelensky to stop the agreement that was practically ready to be signed.***
I assume you’re referring to the time Putin offered Ukraine a terrible deal and called it a “peace” deal and Zelensky told him no thanks and the next day Boris Johnson arrived in Kiev and when informed what happened told Zelensky he made the right decision. (There was only a one-sided draft agreement, none of the negotiators present were authorised to agree on the terms.) The Kremlin propagandists then said Johnson sabotaged an agreed peace plan. Total nonsense!
Russia had “offered” to pull back a bit if Ukraine would let them keep the areas they had annexed and agreed to never join NATO or build up their military. But this was never going to be accepted as it was an obvious attempt by Russia to try and stall the war in order to regroup and attack again later. Also, the discussions were cut short when the Ukrainian side left following the discovery of the Russian mass-murder scene at Bucha.
Sure, Ukraine could surrender, but the worst case scenario for NATO is Ukraine falling into Putin’s hands (as it will encourage him to continue throwing his weight around in the region). It’s also the worst case for Ukraine and the USA.
Maybe in your little mind they're not protecting their land and people -- when the US/NATO have publically stated they want to dethrone Putin, like we did in Ukraine in 2014 and so many other countries around the world, and break up their country. And, by the way, don't forget the doubling of NATO when we told them at the end of the Cold War we would stop expanding NATO plus lies about the Minsk agreements
Sure, no threat.
Russia is doing the same as we did in Cuba in the 60s. Russia is also doing the same we would do if they popped missiles on our border with Mexico and/or Canada.
Get real.
Excuse me.
You're a fool.
So in 2022 the Ukies could have settled it all.
And now, two years later, they've lost even more land, 500,000 of their young men, half the population of their country has fled the hell-hole, the power is being turned off all across their country, and we're sending billions making their payroll -- while we have invasions from across our own border, and people living in the streets not to mention cities across our country melting down with crime.
So you asked for it, and now you've got it -- the WORST CASE SCENARIO. And getting worse with each day.
And here you are, worried about the worst-case scenario for NATO. Oh boy.
I don't know how you run your little corner of the world, but I sure hope I never experience it.
Pray for Trump and hope he ends this nightmare!
***Maybe in your little mind they’re not protecting their land and people — when the US/NATO have publically stated they want to dethrone Putin***
Even if that were true, Putin is not the Russian people. He is a brutal dictator who murders his political opponents with impunity. It’s no loss to Russia if he is ousted.
***NATO when we told them at the end of the Cold War we would stop expanding NATO***
That’s Kremlin propaganda. We made no such promise.
Furthermore, if Putin is so terribly worried about the expansion of NATO eastwards then why do the very thing which would (and did) cause Sweden and Finland to join NATO as soon as possible? (Those countries have traditionally been neutral, they would only join NATO if they saw Russian aggression as a very real and imminent threat.)
***Russia is doing the same as we did in Cuba in the 60s. Russia is also doing the same we would do if they popped missiles on our border with Mexico and/or Canada.***
Hardly. Ukraine gave up all its advanced conventional (and nuclear) weapons to keep the Russians happy. The weapons it has now are mostly only suitable for short-range use on the battlefield and are no strategic threat to Russia. When they sent a drone to attack the Kremlin it only succeeded in blowing up harmlessly on the roof!
You don’t really believe all that Kremlin propaganda about the Ukrainians setting up bioweapons labs and trying to make nuclear weapons do you?
***So in 2022 the Ukies could have settled it all.***
That wouldn’t have settled anything. It would have weakened Ukraine’s military still further and set them up for a successful Russian invasion a couple of years later.
***And now, two years later, they’ve lost even more land, 500,000 of their young men, half the population of their country has fled the hell-hole, the power is being turned off all across their country, and we’re sending billions making their payroll***
All of that would have happened anyway when the Russians came back for more land (they don’t honour their agreements). The whole eastern half of Ukraine would probably have fallen if the Ukrainian military had been weakened enough first.
***while we have invasions from across our own border, and people living in the streets not to mention cities across our country melting down with crime.***
What has the USA’s ongoing failure (over many years) to deal with its southern border problem, homelessness and violent street crime got to do with the Ukrainians? You’re conflating issues.
If NATO is perceived by our enemies as weak then all Hell could break lose. Russia, China, Iran and North Korea might all kick off simultaneously and work together, leading us into World War 3. Deterrence is key to preventing aggression by the enemy and making empty promises and looking weak is no deterrent.
And if Trump is so great then why didn’t he build the wall he PROMISED he would build on the border with Mexico when he was President for 4 years? He even claimed he would make Mexico pay for it! He’s currently using his MAGA Republicans to block a deal in Congress to stem the illegal immigration crisis because he wants the issue to still be live during the election campaign.
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