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Trump's GOPE advisers have once again got him going for the left.

He's demoralizing millions of pro-life Americans by refusing to take a stand. He refused to say what limits he supports, which means he would be fine with none if that's what the voters chose.

The alternative is NARAL Joe Biden of course which is unacceptable.

1 posted on 04/08/2024 12:23:15 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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“ which means he would be fine with none if that’s what the voters chose”

That’s EXACTLY what he means and that’s what overturning Roe v. Wade always meant.

The “Constitutional right” announced in Roe was always an obscenity BECAUSE it prevented the People in their States from legislating on this matter as they had done until 1973.


49 posted on 04/08/2024 12:50:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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He said leave it to the states. That’s the constitutional answer and the correct answer.


53 posted on 04/08/2024 12:52:02 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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Trump’s position is the only Constitutional position. The Constitution doesn’t say anything about abortion, and Congress has no police authority over abortion in states any more than it can pass laws against murder without any connection to Federal officials or civil rights.


60 posted on 04/08/2024 12:55:08 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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If you’re pro-life, fight for the most pro-life policy in your state.

Trump’s has enough national fights on his plate. Can’t ask him to fight every battle. He did his part by returning the fight to the states.


67 posted on 04/08/2024 12:57:40 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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Damn the torpedoes! Give me Trump or give me death!


72 posted on 04/08/2024 12:59:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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"...abortion access should be a states’ issue..."

Because that worked out so well for the last human rights issue in 1861...

75 posted on 04/08/2024 1:00:51 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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The abortion issue causes us to lose elections. We need to drop it. Vote Trump.


76 posted on 04/08/2024 1:01:07 PM PDT by rexthecat
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the SCOTUS decision was to always allow the states to decide their own abortion policy. there was no overturning of Roe


77 posted on 04/08/2024 1:01:56 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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I live in Realville.

In Realville, a person who supports a Federal ban on abortion will not be elected President. It is not something I am happy about, but it is the CURRENT reality.


88 posted on 04/08/2024 1:07:30 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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Baloney. These pro-life jokers spent years pursuing a strategy to get the U.S. Supreme Court to rule that abortion is a state issue … and now they’re turning around and claiming that it’s NOT a state issue.

I had these losers figured out years ago. The pro-life movement is nothing more than a business to them.

89 posted on 04/08/2024 1:09:23 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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What Liz posted bears repeating-and re-reading:

The USSC itself ruled via Dobbs
the rqConstitution doesn’t give rights to the federal govt to intervene in the decision;
that’s already been left to the states.

Do you realize that it took the pro-life movement over 40 long years of protest and lobbying to get the US Supreme Court to reverse Roe v Wade, which they finally did-and rightfully made it a States Rights Issue-because the fed has no business in deciding that life or death issue any more than they have a right to decide whether every state will have/not have the death penalty, or for what. I live in a pro life state and I’m pro life, as is the majority here.

If a woman is determined to kill her unborn baby, she can drive across the state line to New Mexico, where there are plenty of drive-thru type abortion facilities. She just can’t do it in Texas. Do not be foolish and bring this issue to the fed-AGAIN-do you want abortion on demand up to birth again? That is we had before with Roe as the status quo. Many of us do NOT want that back, or anything like it-if you don’t want abortion in your own state, work to get it stopped like other states have done-why would you ever, ever trust the fed with any life and death issue?


93 posted on 04/08/2024 1:14:00 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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I fail to see an issue with His stance of it being a state’s issue.

Because it is.

Like or it hate it, a Federal ban on Abortion is not going to fly in the country ever again. Too many whack job leftists and Indoctrinated children because Parents by and large don’t give a rats ass and send these kids to government ran indoctrination camps for 12 years.

Don’t like that, get the secession movements going and discuss this topic there.


97 posted on 04/08/2024 1:15:59 PM PDT by SPDSHDW
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This is exactly what his position should be. If the right is going to be consistent, they need to stick to the original states rights issues and the extraconstitutional issues of the flawed Roe V Wade case that conservatives have been debating for years. The best case against Roe is that it divined a nonexistent constitutional right via a contorted/distorted reading of the constitution. The moral issues should be taken up amongst citizens of individual states. That’s what we all purportedly love about our concise , Federally-limiting constitution , folks. Sure New York and California are gonna do what they do, but that’s all the more reason for people to abandon those states and strengthen our strongholds in the rest of the country.


101 posted on 04/08/2024 1:18:26 PM PDT by Free Louie
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What are you talking about? For decades we fought to get abortion returned to the states where we have a chance to get the best we can pass and then work on the morality. You are not going to change California or New York overnight but you can make huge inroads on a state by state basis.


102 posted on 04/08/2024 1:18:31 PM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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The Democrats won the 2022 election on abortion right after Roe v Wade made abortion a matter for the states, not the Federal government. They lied then and will lie in 2024.

Trump’s announcement is strategic in that he said it’s still a state matter, not a federal right. If you are 100% as to no abortion under all circumstances, the Democrats win again.


104 posted on 04/08/2024 1:19:09 PM PDT by RicocheT
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Uh, with all due respect, who cares what they think.

Conservatives like Mark Levin said Trump’s statement was SUPERB!


105 posted on 04/08/2024 1:20:08 PM PDT by conservative98
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Let it be up to the states to decide this. That was the driving force behind overturning Roe vs Wade.

Thanks to Trump, this should be a non-issue for all conservative presidential candidates going forward as all they have to do is say "it's up to the states."

Trump handled this situation very well. He will still get the votes from the pro-life crowd (of which I am one) while not unduly angering potential voters who literally live and breathe for abortions.

111 posted on 04/08/2024 1:25:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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My first reaction was his Spiritual advisors failed him or he didn’t listen to them. At any rate could be a nail to America’s coffin. God will not be mocked.


113 posted on 04/08/2024 1:26:43 PM PDT by Maudeen (https://www.ThereIsHopeinJesus.com https://www.patburt.com/)
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Let me ask you this:

Do you think if he said he wants states to ban abortion that would help or hurt his reelection chances?

Do you think if he said he wants states to ban abortion that would help or hurt the chances of states doing that?


116 posted on 04/08/2024 1:29:17 PM PDT by Stravinsky
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Totally disagree.

Both Charlie Kirk and Larry Schweikart are reporting that pro-life leaders are perfectly fine with this position.

My wife is as pro-life as one can be, and she has no problem with it.

This statement also puts the rabidly pro-abort groups in a corner; they can't use this issue to easily rile their crazy pro-death white lady blocs of voters.

Win/win.

117 posted on 04/08/2024 1:29:21 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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