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San Francisco Considers Forcing Grocery Shops to Remain Open Amid Crime
Daily San Francisco Bay News ^ | 4/4

Posted on 04/04/2024 3:02:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway

When in doubt, blame businesses for closing their doors instead of the crime that has made it unsustainable for them to operate. San Francisco might even do you one better: force the businesses to stay open anyway.

One of the 11 members of San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors is floating reviving a vetoed 1984 law that would force grocery stores to stay open against their will. Supervisor Dean Preston calls it a “good idea” because of the risk of “food insecurity” that comes with grocery stores closing.

The law in question would require stores to give a whopping six-month notice before closing, would force them to meet with community members (i.e. activists who will shame them for being greedy corporations), and would mandate that they “explore” opening a replacement store to make up for the one they are closing. In other words, San Francisco would be forcing grocery stores to stay open while running at a loss and putting their own employees in danger due to crime, all because San Francisco just can’t stomach locking up the criminals causing these problems in the first place.

On the bright side, this may just be a worse idea than Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson proposing government-run grocery stores, moving San Francisco closer to the title of worst-run city in the country. But this is not a solution to the problem. The problem is that crime has made running several businesses unsustainable, whether through the losses that come with rampant shoplifting, the safety of employees being put in jeopardy, or both.

Forcing grocery stores to become charities for six months while a bunch of activists complain is not going to stop stores from closing. In fact, it would make them far more hesitant to open new locations (or the alternative ones the law mandates they consider), knowing that they could be held hostage by the city government for six months if their business becomes unsustainable.

If San Francisco pursues this, it would simply be a punishment levied against businesses that are only responding to the terrible circumstances they have been put in by criminals and by San Francisco’s lax attitude toward them. Forcing grocery stores to stay open temporarily doesn’t actually solve any problems, because it isn’t designed to solve a real problem.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; aynrand; california; californication; crime; despotism; groceries; grocery; grocerystores; marxisttyranny; retail; sanfrancisco; sanfransicko; theft
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To: nickcarraway

Isn’t forcing someone to work the very definition of slavery?


81 posted on 04/04/2024 4:52:02 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: nickcarraway

Democrats always begin with a suggestion and propaganda news stories, then mandatory rules, then enforcement by armed government agents or police.

Libertarian author Robert Ringer went through this and described it. He firmly said the government always had armed and deadly force behind their smiling harmless looks. IRS, FBI, ICE and deputies and police.


82 posted on 04/04/2024 4:53:56 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: nickcarraway

San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors G’mTHO!

Dicktaters every where we turn.


83 posted on 04/04/2024 4:56:03 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Bye done!)
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To: nickcarraway

Those stores just thinking of closing should close now. Others should stop paying property tax.


84 posted on 04/04/2024 4:56:13 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: nickcarraway

This is why socialism always devolves into communism. Always!


85 posted on 04/04/2024 4:56:32 PM PDT by glennaro (2024: The Year of The Reckoning, lest our Republic succumb to the "progressive" disease of the Left)
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To: Codeflier

Call me a dreamer


86 posted on 04/04/2024 4:56:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: nickcarraway

Ain’t communism grand?!


87 posted on 04/04/2024 4:57:08 PM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Food insecurity. Not enough inventory control personnel.


88 posted on 04/04/2024 4:57:58 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: gitmo

Believe me I get i.

But we do have an historically conservative court where it could matter.


89 posted on 04/04/2024 4:59:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Publius

Rand was a Prophet.

L


90 posted on 04/04/2024 4:59:38 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

“Rand was a Prophet.”

So was Orwell.

5.56mm


91 posted on 04/04/2024 5:03:00 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go. )
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To: nickcarraway

Why stop at grocery stores? Why not demand that any business wishing to operate in S.F. must also open a branch within certain areas. Banks, doctors, accountants, jewelers, contractors, hardware stores, clothing stores. Why should they be exempt? People worry about food deserts but imagine the emotional toll of an engagement ring desert. You can get all huffy over lack of access to California grown avocados but what about indignation of having to go far afield to buy an extension cord?


92 posted on 04/04/2024 5:03:08 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: dfwgator

I have never read Atlas Shrugged, but I am aware that leftist governments create regulations to create a reason to acquire ownership on behalf of the state.


93 posted on 04/04/2024 5:03:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (A rich man is called a sugar daddy. A poor man is called into HR.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Probably the thieves would simply change their method of five finger discount to outright armed robbery.


94 posted on 04/04/2024 5:04:48 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: nickcarraway

There was a story of a young woman “Krystal Bayron-Nieves was saving money to go to nursing school” She needed money to help her family and to improve her life. She was increasingly afraid for her life. Finally she was brutally killed one night.
https://nypost.com/2022/01/20/nyc-teens-shooting-death-ended-her-quest-for-american-dream/

When the socialist Dems force people to risk their lives in Dem cities with many persons who are ruthless violent criminals aren’t they responsible for the coming deaths and rapes?
Like the judges who let the thugs out to find new victims they will say “What? Not us. We’re sheltered from prosecution.”


95 posted on 04/04/2024 5:06:28 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: armourenthusiast
"I am thinking of running for office. I used to think there was smarts involved, I guess not."

That right there is the primary problem plaguing our nation.. A major shortage of leadership. Descent folks don't want anything to do with the slimy liberals they would need to deal with on a daily bases. So, it seems no one with "true grit" will seek the job. And unlike Trump, they don't have the millions of bucks to fight the legal battles our own damn government would throw at them. Too bad for us.

96 posted on 04/04/2024 5:07:06 PM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: nickcarraway
“The law in question would require stores to give a whopping six-month notice before closing, would force them to meet with community members (i.e. activists who will shame them for being greedy corporations), and would mandate that they “explore” opening a replacement store to make up for the one they are closing. In other words, San Francisco would be forcing grocery stores to stay open while running at a loss and putting their own employees in danger due to crime, all because San Francisco just can't stomach locking up the criminals causing these problems in the first place.”

The store stays open with empty shelves. One doesn't even need employees since there would be nothing to buy. One may want to pay for security though.

97 posted on 04/04/2024 5:09:48 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: nickcarraway
Ollie's, a huge close-out discounter based in Buffalo, NY with a local branch here is famous for sending trucks in to clear out stock of stores that are closing. They've been known to do it overnight after the looters normally go to bed around 3 or 4 am.

Surely, there is an equivalent on the left coast, right?

98 posted on 04/04/2024 5:13:10 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: nickcarraway

So all stores announce closure now.


99 posted on 04/04/2024 5:16:21 PM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: Chgogal

Just leave doors open to empty store and leave the state


100 posted on 04/04/2024 5:22:24 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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