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Biden’s EV mandate likely to severely limit how many conventional vehicles automakers can produ
Just The News ^ | 3/30/2024 | Kevin Killough

Posted on 03/31/2024 3:45:55 PM PDT by Signalman

Ford will need to build two fully electric F150s for every gas-powered F150. By 2032, the company will need to build four electric F150s for every gas-powered F150.

The Environmental Protection Agency has released its final tailpipe emissions standards, which some have called an electric vehicle mandate.

“Make no mistake: This is a coerced phase-out of gas-powered cars,” the Wall Steet Journal editorial board recently opined on the final rules.

The 1,181-page rule doesn’t require auto manufacturers to produce any electric vehicles, and the EPA insists the rule is not an EV mandate.

“The standards continue the technology-neutral and performance-based design of previous EPA standards for cars, pickups, and vans,” the agency states in a March 20 press release.

The rule sets limits on the total fleet emissions allowed from the companies’ vehicles, but the only way to meet the standards is for a manufacturer to, over time, appears be to make a large and growing portion of their vehicle lines electric.

With a mixture of hybrids, which combine aspects of batteries and gas-powered motors, the portion can be lowered, but automakers who continue producing gas-powered vehicles will likely need to produce a lot of EVs to meet the EPA’s demands.

Beginning in 2027, the average carbon-dioxide emissions allowed across truck fleets will be 184 grams per mile. By 2032, that will decrease to 90 grams per mile for trucks.

The Ford F150 is the best-selling vehicle in the U.S. today. The tailpipe emissions for its 2023 model line range from 352 grams per mile on the F150 Pickup 2WD HEV, to 741 grams per mile on the F150 Raptor R 4WD.

Matt Randolph, Sentinel Energy vice president and principal partner, explains in a Substack article that with an average of 430 grams per mile for the F150 line, in order to meet the 2027 EPA standards, Ford will need to build two fully electric F150s for every gas-powered F150. By 2032, the company will need to build four electric F150s for every gas-powered F150.

In 2023, Ford sold 750,789 gas-powered Ford F150s. For Ford to sell just half of the gas-powered F150s that it sold in 2023, Randolph writes, the company will need to produce 750,789 F150 Lightnings, the electric version of the truck, in 2027.

Ford had planned to produce 3,200 Lightnings per week, until this past December, when the U.S. automaker scaled that back to 1,600 per week. Should the company stick to that schedule in 2027, it will be permitted to sell only 166,400 of the popular gas-powered F150s.

By 2032, when the limits fall to just 90 grams per mile, the company will be able to sell only 41,600 conventional F150s, should it produce 166,400 Lightnings. In 2023, the company sold 24,000 Lightnings, but it had aimed to sell 150,000.

Energy expert Robert Bryce calculated, based on data from the company’s earnings report, that Ford lost $64,731 for every electric vehicle it sold. The company pulled off a $4.3 billion full-year net income last year only because its conventional vehicle sales produced so much profit that it made up for the losses on the company’s EV lines.

Should the EPA rule remain in place, the company will lose that revenue stream to support the losses on its EV lines.

It’s hard to say that the electric F150’s appeal to consumers will start to meet the company’s expectations anytime soon.

Compared to the hauling capability of its gas-powered counterpart, the vehicle falls woefully short, according to those who have driven the vehicle. Automotive writer Aaron Turpen wrote in a review of the Lightning that when towing full loads, the vehicle’s range will drop down to as little as 100 miles, less in cold weather.

Writing in MotorTrend, Christian Seabaugh recounted his experience hauling sand and rocks with a Lightning.

The gas-powered F150 versions have towing capacities ranging from 8,200 pounds to as much as 14,000 pounds.

Seabaugh was looking to haul about 4,800 pounds of gravel and sand for a patio-paving project at his home. With three trips, Seabaugh was able to haul all the sand and gravel back to his house, but he had to exceed the towing capacity on the vehicle by a couple hundred pounds.

Surveys show that most F150 owners do little to no hauling, so it’s hard to say how much that limitation will impact consumers buying personal vehicles. Companies looking for work vehicles for their fleets won’t likely be as comfortable with work crews having to make multiple trips in an electric truck that could be done with a single trip in a gas-powered truck.

For consumers, the main concerns about EVs are lack of charging stations, cost of repairs, and range anxiety, which is the fear of running out of charge before reaching a charging location.

The chances that Ford will sell enough Lightnings in 2027 that the EPA will grant the company permission to build enough of its popular gas-powered F150s to meet demand were further dimmed this past week.

The Detroit Free Press reported that Ford is cutting the hourly workforce at the plant in Dearborn, Michigan, where it produces the Lightnings. A year prior, the company had announced it was ramping up production, but as the pace of sales slowed, the Freep reports, the company has scaled back production.

In just three years, scaling back production of EVs will require automakers to do the same for their gas-powered lines.


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To: Signalman

Too bad that the people are unwilling to stand up and put a stop to this nonsense.


41 posted on 03/31/2024 5:49:07 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Signalman
I wonder if there’s a little wiggle room for some malicious compliance. Technically, the mandate is to sell vehicles with no emissions. So what if you made a vehicle that sold with a token EV motor that was cheap to make, ran on a tiny battery, and basically had enough juice to get it off the lot and a few miles away. But that same vehicle also has the ability to accept an after-market ICE that can just be dropped in later by the consumer. Oh and the company just so happens to make those as well, and have maintenance garages just a few miles from the dealerships to help the customer out.
42 posted on 03/31/2024 5:51:56 PM PDT by cross_bearer_02
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To: Signalman

The truth is since no one will but them, Detroit will collapse into bankruptcy.
Germany will be next.


43 posted on 03/31/2024 5:52:36 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: arthurus
and force the population to maintain their old cars as Cubans do by scavenging and small shop manufacturing of parts.

A friend's '99 Honda was just stolen out of his suburban Southern California driveway, to be found a couple of days later missing its transmission. Even old cars aren't safe from the predators.

44 posted on 03/31/2024 5:53:29 PM PDT by Tellurian (Any cleverness from a democrat is quickly invested in deception)
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To: Signalman

Two obvious consequences of this rule:

1. Hold on to your used ICE — it’ll be worth double or more if this rule plays out.

2. Detroit will find it more profitable to pay the fines for not meeting the quotas than to sell EVs.


45 posted on 03/31/2024 5:54:38 PM PDT by nicollo ("This is FR!")
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To: arthurus
And judges and justices are simply ignored with no blowback.

Only if the enforcers like your DEI score. Independent minded people are on the chopping block; the fascist enforcers are itching to cause traditional Americans harm and pain.

However, are there loopholes in the EPA's authority? Can they be ignored?

46 posted on 03/31/2024 5:58:58 PM PDT by Tellurian (Any cleverness from a democrat is quickly invested in deception)
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To: Signalman

Fixing up old smokers for resale looking more and more lucrative with dopy biden doing his idiocracy thing a ma jig.


47 posted on 03/31/2024 5:59:03 PM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: FreedomPoster

Tried to find an RV spot for the night along 65 .
Couldn’t find one within 40 miles north or south of Glendale .
All full with workers RVs for the battery plant .


48 posted on 03/31/2024 6:01:14 PM PDT by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: sausageseller

Believable.

Wife grew up near there. It hasn’t been bad for the family real estate holdings.


49 posted on 03/31/2024 6:06:36 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Fireone

They would get push back on that high of a gas tax.
These people like to hide their actions behind bureaucratic gobblygook.

I can easily see it would be a federal tax something like the feds use for semi trucks. A modification of The Federal Heavy Vehicle Use Tax. A modification of Form 2290.

Each year, in order to license your vehicle, you will have to fill out a federal form... or they won’t license that vehicle.


50 posted on 03/31/2024 6:06:42 PM PDT by VetoBill
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To: Signalman

The UAW votes themselves out if a job. Morons.


51 posted on 03/31/2024 6:08:17 PM PDT by cp124 (Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Gen.Blather

We are so screwed if Trump isn’t reelected for a 3rd time by enough to beat the big steal.


52 posted on 03/31/2024 6:11:46 PM PDT by Boomer (If the Rats, Rinos, Uniparty wins, everyone loses. Democrats can no longer claim they are American.)
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To: smokingfrog

Good catch.


53 posted on 03/31/2024 6:17:43 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Charging your electric truck or car in Churchill during the winter might present a few challenges.


54 posted on 03/31/2024 6:28:30 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Signalman

Someone ask KJP when The Beast will be fully and only electric.


55 posted on 03/31/2024 6:39:55 PM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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To: linMcHlp
Those are all Congressional powers, not Presidential powers.

Actually instead of "Congress" it should say "the Environmental Protection Agency shall..."

Members of Congress can be voted out. The EPA is safe from any blowback from the ignorant unwashed masses. Saving the earth has to be reserved to the experts.

56 posted on 03/31/2024 6:52:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: USCG SimTech
Trump will cruise into office

I wish, however it's not the case.

Trump has made too many enemies, and it's all on Mister Trump.

Trump has made too many awful choices, including the porn star payoff thingie, that will dominate the news and entertainment media for every minute of every day from the day Trump wins the nom.

I'll vote for whomever wins the GOP nod, likely Trump.

I'd prefer a candidate who acted wise and presidential and had a chance to win, however.

57 posted on 03/31/2024 7:07:00 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: Signalman

Something is going to come to a head when EVs that nobody wants are piling up and ICE vehicles are nowhere to be found. Is this going to be what it takes for people to finally wake up?


58 posted on 03/31/2024 7:12:39 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I’m no Ford fan, but Ford is a large manufacturer who surely knows the business model, where as Joe Biden is a meddlesome loser who knows nothing about running a business, even a small one. In fact, he seems to know nearly nothing about running anything. On top of that his advisers don’t seem to be much better. I think Ford (and others) should go about their business & build what they know will sell & forget the rest. It appears to me that if the economy ever opens up that there is a large market out there for the right vehicles at affordable prices.


59 posted on 03/31/2024 7:31:33 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: Verginius Rufus

The very thing I was wondering about myself.


60 posted on 03/31/2024 7:33:55 PM PDT by oldtech
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