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To: mass55th

***I care about this country’s survival, not some European craphole that can’t defend itself, and hasn’t bothered to even build up their own security. Why does this country always have to bail out those that will not protect themselves?***

That’s a very unfair characterization of Ukraine. Given that it was the US government who persuaded Ukraine (during the Obama Administration) to give Russia all its SRBMs and heavy bombers a few years before Russia first attacked them in 2014.

Not to mention encouraging them to give up all their nuclear weapons and ICBMs in exchange for some worthless security guarantees in the Budapest Memorandum of 1994:

“I feel a personal stake because I got them [Ukraine] to agree to give up their nuclear weapons. And none of them believe that Russia would have pulled this stunt if Ukraine still had their weapons,” - Bill Clinton

See: https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2023/0404/1374162-clinton-ukraine/


96 posted on 03/28/2024 6:06:20 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: David Hunter
"That’s a very unfair characterization of Ukraine. Given that it was the US government who persuaded Ukraine (during the Obama Administration) to give Russia all its SRBMs and heavy bombers a few years before Russia first attacked them in 2014"

That wasn't my government. I didn't vote for Clinton or Obama. And it's not my problem that Ukraine was dumb enough to listen to Bill Clinton, and then Obama. Antony Blinken's father oversaw the Budapest Memorandum. And now they're dealing with his shitful son. How much was Ukraine paid monetarily by the U.S. to do that? You know they got something. Knowing Bill, he got something from it too. Maybe Biden did as well, seeing that he was in charge of Ukraine when he was V.P. Even the Soviet Union was stupid when they agreed to a non-aggression pact with Hitler in 1939. Anyone with half-a-brain knew Hitler couldn't be trusted to keep any agreement. And Russia paid in the end for being so naive. Now, so too is Ukraine, but that Europe's problem, not ours, and certainly not worth going to actual war with Russia over. America today should not pay for the sins of the likes of Clinton and Obama.

99 posted on 03/28/2024 6:40:05 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: David Hunter

bttt


100 posted on 03/28/2024 6:43:05 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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