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Why California Democrats are divided on retail theft bill
Cal Matters ^ | March 25, 2024 | Lynn La

Posted on 03/28/2024 8:19:48 AM PDT by Angelino97

Legislators may be off for spring recess, but debates about their bills are still happening outside committee rooms. One spicy intra-party exchange between Democratic Assemblymembers focuses on a measure about retail theft — underscoring the difficult balance for lawmakers responding to public concerns about crime, while not over-policing historically targeted communities.

Los Angeles Assemblymember Wendy Carrillo, vice chairperson of the Legislative Progressive Caucus, introduced Assembly Bill 1990, which would allow police officers to make warrantless arrests for misdemeanor shoplifting offenses (as in, items that total $950 or less) if officers have probable cause. Officers do not need to be present when the crime occurred.

Warrantless arrests when police don’t witness the crime aren’t new — officers can already arrest people on misdemeanor charges for domestic violence, violating a restraining order or for carrying a concealed gun at an airport.

The bill has bipartisan support with the backing of Assemblymember Juan Alanis, a Republican from Modesto and vice chairperson of the Public Safety Committee. In a statement, Carrillo said that by “increasing enforcement against suspected shoplifters, we are sending a clear message: we will not tolerate these acts that threaten our public safety and economic vitality.”

But Inglewood Assemblymember Tina McKinnor, a fellow progressive caucus member, urged lawmakers to reject the bill, saying on social media that it was “bad for black and brown folks.”

In an emailed statement, McKinnor told CalMatters that AB 1990 is unnecessary and will promote mass incarceration: “We need our law enforcement partners to enforce the laws on the books, not discourage retailers from asking for help.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: anarchotyranny; california; crime; dystopia; theft
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underscoring the difficult balance for lawmakers responding to public concerns about crime, while not over-policing historically targeted communities.

Translation: How can we stop black crime without arresting too many black criminals?

1 posted on 03/28/2024 8:19:48 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Angelino97
These are Democrats who aren't soft on crime (as the conservative trope would have it). They are actively in favor of it.
2 posted on 03/28/2024 8:23:23 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: Angelino97

What will black and brown people sell on the sidewalk across the street from the store that racists accused them of looting?


3 posted on 03/28/2024 8:23:45 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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To: Angelino97
Their constituents are criminals, that's why.
4 posted on 03/28/2024 8:24:47 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

In the real world leftist legislators are rewarding criminal black and brown people and punishing law abiding black and brown people.

They are pro crime.


5 posted on 03/28/2024 8:29:52 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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...over-policing historically targeted communities...

If the citizens tolerate the thuggery, who am I to get in the way?
6 posted on 03/28/2024 8:31:54 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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“...not over-policing historically targeted communities.”

Yawn. Police target them because these “communities” commit a disproportionate amount of crime. In my rural area, police spend a lot of time at certain white-trash trailer parks known for domestic violence and drugs.


7 posted on 03/28/2024 8:32:10 AM PDT by Restless
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To: Angelino97

Is it horrible that i hope this POS state shoots themselves in the foot (AGAIN) and defeats this common sense bill?


8 posted on 03/28/2024 8:32:29 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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It is really inconvenient for progressives who argue that mass incarceration of blacks was caused by systematic racism to accept the reality that without consequences blacks will pick the place clean. Blacks commit a percentage of crimes far above their percentage of population.


9 posted on 03/28/2024 8:33:56 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: SpaceBar

BINGO

which is exactly why criminals were not allowed to vote originally


10 posted on 03/28/2024 8:38:57 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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"But Inglewood Assemblymember Tina McKinnor, a fellow progressive caucus member, urged lawmakers to reject the bill, saying on social media that it was “bad for black and brown folks.”"

Since the law applies to people, maybe the "folks" can just be put down like the out-of-control animals that they are.

11 posted on 03/28/2024 8:42:40 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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“It’s about jobs.”

From 1990 to 2009, the economy was “Doing each others’ laundry.”

From 2009 to 2024, the economy was “Stealing and selling each others’ shoes.”


12 posted on 03/28/2024 8:46:36 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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“We need our law enforcement partners...”


I wonder how LEOs feel about having Assemblyman McKinnor, who doesn’t want black and brown criminals locked up, as their ‘partner’?


13 posted on 03/28/2024 8:51:36 AM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: Angelino97

democrats support the Looters because they don’t pay taxes and the taxpayers can get stuffed ? LOL


14 posted on 03/28/2024 8:55:23 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Angelino97
Well, just look at the bright side libtards. Soon there won't be any stores left to loot. Problem solved!
15 posted on 03/28/2024 8:58:44 AM PDT by Desron13 (You may choose to ignore reality but you can't force reality to ignore you.)
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This explains a lot...

https://calmatters.org/about/

And they have non-profit status.

It’s good to serve Deep State.


16 posted on 03/28/2024 9:10:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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“while not over-policing historically targeted communities.”

Typical white liberal idiocy. I’ll guarantee that most people in those communities would love them some over-policing.


17 posted on 03/28/2024 10:01:50 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Angelino97
That is only half the issue.

“...... — underscoring the difficult balance for lawmakers responding to public concerns about crime, while not over-policing historically targeted communities........”

The other half, is how does one keep low priced businesses in minority areas and employing minorities if they are constantly being robbed.

We are seeing many businesses closing stores and fast food restaurants in California because of business theft losses, threats against employees, and oh, yes, crazy minimum wage laws that make no sense.

One of the hallmarks of Democrats is how they invent words and concepts to define issues in a false light. In this case “over policing.” If you look at the definition it implies that violations of the law (especially theft) are not the worst societal problem, but that police actually detaining and arresting all who break the law is a societal problem.

That means that legislators and DA's need to instruct police on the “right” degree of arresting people, not on what the laws actually say are legal or illegal acts.

This country has devolved into selective enforcement of laws, lawfare, and unequal justice. That is the hallmark of a failed society.

18 posted on 03/28/2024 10:02:08 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: Angelino97

Because quite a few of these lawmakers are getting paid from the theft rings.


19 posted on 03/28/2024 10:14:15 AM PDT by TexasM1A (GLASS HAMAS)
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items that total $950 or less

This price allows the homeless to steal shopping carts.

20 posted on 03/28/2024 11:18:11 AM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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