Posted on 03/23/2024 4:20:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
In the face of rampant skepticism, ISIS has now provided photographic evidence it was behind the massacre at a Moscow concert hall.
The attack occurred on Friday evening, with gunmen entering the Crocus City Hall with AK-style weapons and explosives. Terrifying videos of the ordeal were made public showing people being gunned down in cold blood as others hid behind barriers. Russian FSB forces eventually arrived with the building already in flames.
(WARNING: GRAPHIC)
Watch Video HERE
Within hours ISIS put out a statement of responsibility through its propaganda outlet, Amaq News Agency. That didn't stop speculation from running wild that it was Ukraine, the CIA, Israel, or some combination of the three behind the attack.
Apparently, ISIS wasn't a fan of people stealing credit and responded again on Saturday.
ISIS has now released an additional Statement in which they claim Responsibility for the Terrorist Attack last night against the Crocus Concert Hall in the Russian Capital of Moscow; while also Posting a Picture of the Attackers only minutes before the Shooting began, in which… pic.twitter.com/zmsH9degmD— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 23, 2024
If ISIS was not behind the attack, it wouldn't have access to the above photograph, and the details do match up with the pictures of the attackers found at the concert hall. The idea that this was a secret CIA plot carried out in conjunction with the Ukrainians, as Vladimir Putin suggested in his recent remarks, just doesn't make any sense, and it's now flying in the face of hard evidence.
READ: Despite ISIS Claim of Responsibility, Russia Blames Ukraine for Concert Hall Attack
As I wrote in my original write-up on the Moscow terrorist attack, Occam's razor says ISIS is telling the truth here. They've been carrying out mass casualty attacks for months against those they deem to be enemies, with one occurring in Iran in January. ISIS has no love lost for Russia because the two of them have essentially been at war for a decade. The terrorist group is even operating in the Caucasus region, and the attackers were Russian citizens.
In other words, Putin is almost certainly lying by making the baseless claim that the terrorists had a "window" opened for them to enter Ukraine after the attack. Why is that an incredibly stupid assertion? Because Russia controls Eastern Ukraine and is dug in on the northern border, which means the terrorists would be running right into the teeth of Putin's military build-up. Does that sound probable to anyone when they could have simply fled to an EU nation or the Caucasus region where they have allies?
There's no motivation for Ukraine or the United States to be involved in such an attack anyway. If a connection was made to Ukraine, it would only rally support for the war in Ukraine. Further, if the CIA was trying to pull one over on Moscow, they wouldn't have preemptively warned the Russians that an attack was coming.
Here's what all the evidence points to at this moment. Putin got caught with his pants down and doesn't want to admit ISIS got the best of him. The Russian president needs a vast conspiracy involving the West to blame because the truth is too embarrassing.
Oh sure there is. The United States is setting up Putin, Trump and Trump supporters for whatever they're going to pull in America to stop the elections. Likely a Chinese sponsored emp. China is the enemy here and they've paid off poeple like Biden to do what they want and they don't want Trump.
RE: while we’re on that subject how many of those 141 countries voted with the US either because the US paid them or threatened regime change?
I don’t know that for a fact. If you know that for a fact, kindly show evidence. Of course I could ask the same question of the 5 countries that supported Russia.
RE: while we’re on that subject how many of those 141 countries voted with the US either because the US paid them or threatened regime change?
Again, you are assuming that MOST governments of these countries who sent their representatives to the UN and who voted as they did, Do not represent the sentiments of their people.
As for the US Paying them off, sure, I’m open to that possibility. Anybody can make accusations including a charge of rape against Donal Trump and Brett Kavanaugh. Please show me the evidence.
Was it a Fabergé egg?
Well well. trying to offer up straw men huh? I’ve been watching what the US does for the last 30 years. I know better. It’s why i don’t believe anything they say anymore
RE: Well well. trying to offer up straw men huh? I’ve been watching what the US does for the last 30 years. I know better.
Well, well, I’ve been alive since the time of JFK as well and I don’t trust the motives of our intelligence agencies as well. But that doesn’t mean that I trust the Russians either.
Anybody can make accusations, anybody can speculate ( like you and me ), but we could be wrong ( or right ). I want evidence. And I want to know who benefits the most from an event.
I can’t see how the attacks on hundreds of innocents benefits Ukraine or even the CIA the most. All it does is garner sympathy for Russia.
RE: What is a Faberge egg?
As far as I know… The Fabergé eggs are a collection of lavishly decorated and intricately crafted jeweled eggs created by the House of Fabergé, a Russian jewelry firm, between 1885 and 1917.
What this has to do with the terror attacks in Moscow, I don’t know.
Well if you’ve all that time with not seeing how US pays people off and interferes in elections And if you’re that old you are probably old enough to know what the book “The Ugly American” is about. Talking about Trump? Kavanaugh? straw men
Attempt at a little humor here on FR...
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Why are the cases of Trump and Kavanaugh straw men? They’re presented as examples of accusations without good evidence.
And I’ve seen the movie that starred Marlon Brando. I’ve never said the US intelligence is incapable of fomenting regime change. I just want EVIDENCE in this particular case that the US is capable of doing this to 143 countries simultaneously. And you haven’t answered my question — how does Ukraine or the USA benefit from the slaughter of over a hundred innocent civilians? If the CIA did it, what were they trying to drive at? Regime change in Russia? How?
All it does is strengthen support for Putin.
The US Intelligence is capable of a lot of evil in the world, but not every single evil in the world can be attributed to US Intelligence. I want to know how this particular one does.
evidence is a funny thing. A rare bird rarely found naked and true always slanted, filtered, and opposing evidence hidden.
“Believe none of what you hear and believe half of what you see”
It’s a straw man where you are talking about another subject entirely
RE: “Believe none of what you hear and believe half of what you see”
Yes. And that dictum applies to what you’re saying too.
RE: It’s a straw man where you are talking about another subject entirely
No it not. I cite them as examples of accusations without providing evidence. They’re relevant as they relate to your accusations IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
RE: AP footage of Ukranians wearing ISIS shoulder patches.
Some questions:
1. The caption says it’s AP footage. How do we know it’s REALLY from AP? If it were such a scoop, the AP would be flashing it on their own page, not relying on an outlet called The Cradle.
2. Caption says Ukrainian soldiers, how do we know they’re Ukrainians?
3. How do we know the patches were not software generated?
I’m thinking it’s old footage most people forgot about, and somebody had the enterprising idea of looking at old footage.
Somewhere yesterday or today someone posted a photo of one of the shooters thecRussians captured, and a photo of his Ukranian armed forces ID card.
Everybody goes nuts with wild posts and theories to fit what they believe because they hate Biden. And it IS hard to discern what is true and what is made up.
However, KISS applies here.
ISIS has quite good reason to put Russia at the top of ISIS’ (very long) hate list. An attack like this is also very good for their recruitment (although not all non-Islamics will understand that.)
All else not made up follows from that.
Statistically, illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes per person (outside of illegal entry and the forgeries associated with fake documents and so on) than do our own citizens. Would you argue against citizens having more babies because that will eventually result in even more tens of thousands of dead Americans, maimed, shot, knifed, robbed, ran over...?
It’s the gross distortions in other areas that are the problem(s), such as overloading social services, or creating more of our own homeless citizens (as the pressures on the housing market are just nuts.) Add political and economic distortions and so on. (Citizens having more kids do not tend to generate these problems.)
No need to use arguments easily shot down.
OTOH, when we don’t know who is coming in, the odds of a Moscow-like terrorist attack here ARE considerably nastier. That’s probably the argument that best convinces the average voter that we have to shut down the influx of illegals...
Am I supposed to thank this corrupt government for aiding and abetting, allowing, millions who enter illegally from Gawd knows where, to choke off our schools, jails, jobs, hospitals, social services, housing etc?
Would these not be considered crimes against legitimate citizens who have to pay for it all?
Are you suggesting since 35 million illegals don’t commit as many crimes as 320 million Americans it’s A-OK? You do understand many illegals don’t call the cops or report crimes when they are committed against them?
You need to reboot.
illegal immigrants commit fewer crimes per person if we ignore illegal entry, forgeries associated with fake documents and so on
Why do illegals always get a pass? What laws can I willy nilly break where they will be completely overlooked and ignored?
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