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Apple has kept an illegal monopoly over smartphones in US, Justice Department says in antitrust suit
https://apnews.com ^ | 3/21/2024 | MICHAEL LIEDTKE, LINDSAY WHITEHURST AND MIKE BALSAMO

Posted on 03/21/2024 8:33:24 AM PDT by bitt

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To: DouglasKC

Perhaps some people in this debacle have shorted AAPL, which went from an up tick yesterday of 178.66 to today’s 172 and falling.


61 posted on 03/21/2024 9:30:44 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Theo

I wonder what Apple did to piss off the Biden Regime? Of course, it is possible that this is just a “friendly” suit for the purpose of quickly entering into an agreed judgment limiting what President Trump can later do by regulations or executive orders (e.g, give some sort of backdoor protection to Apple’s China suppliers or to mandate Apple hire illegal aliens). Democrats do it all the time to mandate all sorts of restrictions and to funnel tax money to favored groups. Time will tell.

I’ve never owned an Apple phone or tablet and never had a problem finding an Android phone or tablet I preferred. I do wish that there were more alternatives to Apple and Google (Android).

A better case could probably be made that Apple and Google have conspired to jointly monopolize the market (though Google was smart to open up Android to other manufacturers). Of course facts and law don’t matter when Democrats are waging Lawfare, just ask Fanny Willis and Letitia James.


62 posted on 03/21/2024 9:46:30 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy ( Dementia Joe is Not My President)
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To: bitt
I took delivery of my new Galaxy S24 yesterday. I'm hunkered down now in my fighting hole waiting for the Apple Gestapo to show up. So far, nothing.

This problem is nothing a little check to the Biden re-election PACs won't cure...

63 posted on 03/21/2024 9:52:36 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Both the US & EU hate Apple because of its privacy policy ingrained in its eco system. They both are after OTHER-PEOPLES’-MONEY and Apple is a plump target.


64 posted on 03/21/2024 9:57:15 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-M)
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To: xp38
Last quarter smarphone market share for Apple was 61%. Next was Samsung at 22%. The rest were Google Motoroloa and others in the single digits. Apple is dominant but I wouldn’t say it’s a monopoly. If they get into the 90 percent plus range then maybe.

Not quite a monopoly. But on their way. Samsung is the only significant challenger left. LG called it quits years ago

65 posted on 03/21/2024 9:59:46 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: monkeyshine

My phone wasn’t cheap, it was free


66 posted on 03/21/2024 10:03:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: for-q-clinton

I moved to mac long before there were ‘apps.’ I went through MS-DOS, DR-DOS, early linux versions, minix, trying to get Solaris to run on a 386 processor, etc. When Mac came out with os x (2001?), which was based on BSD, i switched. FInally a solid Unix/posix system that also did all the consumer stuff well (browser, audio, graphics, word processing). I have an iphone now just because it works well with my mac.

In the house we have windows, linux, mac, ios, android, etc in part so my children can celebrate diversity.


67 posted on 03/21/2024 10:04:39 AM PDT by posterchild
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To: xp38

Apple has a monopoly on profits from cellphones. Everybody else is just nibbling at the edges.


68 posted on 03/21/2024 10:05:28 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: posterchild

My children also like my Atari 800.


69 posted on 03/21/2024 10:07:06 AM PDT by posterchild
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To: bitt

My technology challenged wife has an Apple. As for myself, I love my Nokia. My wife is leaning towards a Nokia when her Iphone dies.


70 posted on 03/21/2024 10:07:08 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: posterchild

Right...so you of all should know Macs were never a big dev platform until the iPhone took off and they required a mac to publish to the app store.


71 posted on 03/21/2024 10:15:24 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: bitt

If Apple (50% of smart phones in the U.S. in 2022) is a “monopoly” in smart phones, then the other 50% (brands that make Android smart phones) of U.S. smart phone sales is just a mirage???


72 posted on 03/21/2024 10:16:04 AM PDT by Wuli (ena)
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To: bitt

I don’t own an apple because I don’t care for them. I find them confusing. But my complaint with ALL phones is in being forced to utilize theìr stuff. I want to see phones like computers where you can delete what you don’t want including the entire operating system, and put something else.

I hate it that you can’t delete samsung browser or facebook.

Some phones can be rooted, but the new operating system frequently runs into problems with utilizing hardware. Like not being able to text or make phone calls, or hear sound. But not all phones can be rooted. And then, the process is so delicate and persnickity.

It took years for developers to figure out how root a $50 ZTE.

We pay for the hardware, it belongs to us. Like any computer, we should be able to put on and remove any software on our devices.

I have an old laptop...well over 7 years old, that I dumped windows on and replaced it with linux giving that slow beast new pep and new life.

How about hardware drivers? Many won’t release them to linux so that you can operate your computer with something other than windows.

Those are the kinds of issues that need correction.


73 posted on 03/21/2024 10:16:49 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (USA: Land of the free, Because of the Brave.)
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To: for-q-clinton

I hadn’t followed market share for developers but for me and the people i worked with we were almost exclusively either on solaris or mac since the late 1990s. Nearly all of my work was in open source or from scratch development. I only did .NET (or whatever its predecessor was called - ADO?) for a brief period in the 90s.


74 posted on 03/21/2024 10:19:41 AM PDT by posterchild
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To: bitt
Whoopsie! I guess Apple's check to The Biden Family got lost in the mail.
75 posted on 03/21/2024 10:19:45 AM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: for-q-clinton
One of the biggest BS moves apple did was require a Mac to publish iPhone apps. This is why developers all of the sudden started using Macs.

No, it was because with OS X, Apple moved to a solid, true UNIX operating system.

This meant all the tried and true UNIX-isms that developers used on workstations were now available on laptops, ones that ALSO ran MS Word, Excel, easily ran web-based multimedia (which used to be sketchy on UNIX), etc.

76 posted on 03/21/2024 10:24:47 AM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Yossarian

LMAO. If that’s the case Linux would have already been a great dev platform.

You know it was the iphone app deal. BTW: If OSX is so great why did photoshop apps go to windows and become more popular than on Macs. Used to be Macs were the artist platform?


77 posted on 03/21/2024 10:28:33 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: bitt

iPhone vs Android Stats (Highlights) As of early 2024, Android has a 70.69% market share worldwide.

In the US, iPhones hold a market share of 60.77%. More than 1 billion iPhones and over 3 billion Android devices are currently active.

Android smartphones accounted for 56% of all smartphone sales worldwide in Q4 2023.Mar 13, 2024
https://backlinko.com/iphone-vs-android-statistics


78 posted on 03/21/2024 10:31:51 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: for-q-clinton
LMAO. If that’s the case Linux would have already been a great dev platform.

Holy cow, are you out of touch!!!

79 posted on 03/21/2024 10:36:29 AM PDT by Yossarian
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To: bitt; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; AbolishCSEU; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; ...
The DOJ has sued Apple for Anti Trust for keeping iPhones and iOS secure for the past 15 years and keeping them what the consumers want. The DOJ wants them to be as open as Android. Claiming that Apple has illegally competed against Android by keeping developers out of competing for Apple’s customers by preventing their products from connecting into it and pushing other competitors out of competing. Calling Apple iPhones a monopoly, Merrick Garland attacked Apple for a compendium of complaints for not making the Apple not playing nice with its competitors. This flies in the face of factual reality where Apple is still a minority competitor in the worldwide cellular phone market.—

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DOJ V. APPLE ANTITRUST PING!

If you want on or off the Apple/Mac/iOS Ping List, Freepmail me.

80 posted on 03/21/2024 10:43:06 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplophobe bigots!)
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