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To: wildcard_redneck
the [sic] Ukraine and Crimea were part of Russian [sic] and settled by Russians

all completely irrelevant

Ukraine is a sovereign country now, you keep forgetting that part


23 posted on 02/10/2024 2:22:52 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: canuck_conservative
"all completely irrelevant
Ukraine is a sovereign country now, you keep forgetting that part"

The Ukraine is anything but a sovereign country. It went from independence straight into becoming a proxy for United States empire. The Ukraine is an appendage that has lost its freedom, its democracy, its freedom of religion and half of its population.

24 posted on 02/10/2024 2:28:33 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: canuck_conservative; wildcard_redneck

It’s not completely irrelevant.

If the land was once Russian and was improperly given to the Ukraine, I can see where Russia would think they still can lay claim to it. It happens all the time around the world where there are disputes about whose the land is.


58 posted on 02/10/2024 5:05:56 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: canuck_conservative

—> Ukraine is a sovereign country now, you keep forgetting that part

If they were “sovereign” they could protect their territory.


67 posted on 02/10/2024 5:39:10 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: canuck_conservative

“Ukraine is a sovereign country now”

Agreed. The past cannot be changed. Attempts to correct past injustices (real or imagined) only lead to future injustices.

The communists seized my grandfather’s factory in Poland. A few years ago, the Polish government opened the door to compensate people like me. I wasn’t interested. The deed was done. My grandfather was dead, as were the perpetrators. I saw no point in benefitting at the expense of the Polish people of today.


68 posted on 02/10/2024 5:39:13 AM PST by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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