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Blue state’s bag ban meant to protect environment backfires at staggering rate: study
Fox News ^ | January 24, 2024 | Emma Colton

Posted on 01/24/2024 6:48:33 AM PST by lowbridge

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1 posted on 01/24/2024 6:48:33 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

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2 posted on 01/24/2024 6:49:12 AM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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Officials hail the new bag legislation as a spectacular success as a windfall of bag fees have fortified the general fund.........


3 posted on 01/24/2024 6:53:40 AM PST by weeweed (Proud Costco University graduate)
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Paper bags are the most energy efficient, environmentally safe and sustainable solution to the ‘problem’..........................


4 posted on 01/24/2024 6:54:10 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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I never saw the problem with platic bags, we’d get them from the supermarket (they weren’t super strong, but you’d figure out how to keep them from tearing, usually,) and tuck them in a cabinet and use them for wasterbaskets, kitty litter, whatever, in the house.

Then I vistited Boston Mass, and the things were everywhere, Blowing down the street, stuck in the trees and bushes. It was disgusting.

And they taked about getting rid of the bags to prevent litter.

The problem wasn’t the bags. The problem was the blue state city residents were slobs.


5 posted on 01/24/2024 6:54:55 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Fido969
Yep!

Nobody has the reverse Midas touch like libtards.

Everything they touch turns to crap.


6 posted on 01/24/2024 6:59:31 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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An interesting problem arose from this government stupidity-dramatic increases in theft from grocery stores. I have a friend who is a Regional Manager in one of the largest chains in NJ. She advises that people now just walk in and load up boxes, grocery carts, their arms, etcetera and just walk out the door. Very difficult for security to stop everyone as some of these people actually did pay for their goods but refused to buy the optional reusable bags.

She says that per store shrinkage has exploded.


7 posted on 01/24/2024 7:01:07 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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The problem wasn’t the bags. The problem was the blue state city residents were slobs.

Quite true. Same can be said for “gun violence”. It’s not the guns. It’s the culture. Many other sociological problems follow the same pattern.

I prefer the plastic bags. More sanitary and reusable for practical purposes as others have mentioned. And, it should not be a hard ship to save unneeded bags and return them to the recycle bins most grocery stores provide.

8 posted on 01/24/2024 7:04:43 AM PST by sjmjax
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Cross the border into New York gets you the thin film plastic bags you need for dozens of uses including lining small wastebaskets.

Otherwise it’s an uninterrupted lifestyle dealing with New Jersey’s self-imposed retail bag foolishness and dysfunction!


9 posted on 01/24/2024 7:04:44 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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She advises that people now just walk in and load up boxes, grocery carts, their arms, etcetera and just walk out the door. Very difficult for security to stop everyone as some of these people actually did pay for their goods but refused to buy the optional reusable bags.

She actually advises people to do this?

10 posted on 01/24/2024 7:04:56 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: lowbridge

The bags are not the problem. The problem is people letting the bags get into the environment. Seems that the liberals don’t think people are capable of understanding and doing what’s right.


11 posted on 01/24/2024 7:05:28 AM PST by I want the USA back (Delusionary people should not be given power over normal people.)
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Unintended consequences, the Perverse result: A perverse effect contrary to what was originally intended (when an intended solution makes a problem worse).

NJ keep voting Democratic…….

12 posted on 01/24/2024 7:09:16 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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DUH.

Environmental policy has as much to do with saving the planet as CoupFlu policy has to do with protecting public health.


13 posted on 01/24/2024 7:12:53 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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Paper bags are the most energy efficient, environmentally safe and sustainable solution to the ‘problem’

If that were true, paper bags would be cheaper. Price is roughly proportional to total energy consumption and pollution. Cardboard boxes, though, are a definite winner.

14 posted on 01/24/2024 7:16:55 AM PST by Reeses
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They were never single use for us. We would use them as mini garbage bags for food that would smell in a few days, rather than throw the food in regular garbage can in the house- which kept that can smell free-

Supermarkets don’t even volunteer to bag groceries anymore even with paper bags- you have to pay extra for a bag, and asking the cashier for a bag is like asking them to do a bit of extra work and they get pissed almost. They get really grumpy if they ring you out, and th3n you ask for bags to,be added in beczuse you forgot to ask while being rung out.

Shopping is such a joy these days /s


15 posted on 01/24/2024 7:22:10 AM PST by Bob434
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16 posted on 01/24/2024 7:26:23 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: Fido969

I agree. Almost never see one of these bags littering the highway. No reason to throw one out as litter, since they are going to be carrying something home. There was a picture once of a stretch of road in our area with blue grocery bags everywhere, but it was clearly a staged photo by activists. Never seen such a thing with my own eyes. I’d suspect your experience in Boston may have been the work of green weenies trying to make a point by showing how awful it is.


17 posted on 01/24/2024 7:30:26 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv; Kaslin; PJ-Comix; BenLurkin

Meh. Paper grocery bags are notorious for feeding the cockroaches and mice/rats who eat the wet and decaying paper left even for a few days in a cabinet or beside a refrigerator.

The vermin eat the damp or humidity-soaked paper, use it to line their nests, then multiply rapidly.


18 posted on 01/24/2024 7:32:35 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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my local Walmart doesn’t even offer the thicker plastic bags for 8 cents. They want you buy their “reusable “ bags.


19 posted on 01/24/2024 7:36:49 AM PST by shotgun
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go to a any protest about the environment and you will find the place trashed...Years ago when the tea party. would hold an event the organizers would try to leave the event locations cleaner than before the event.


20 posted on 01/24/2024 7:45:28 AM PST by PCPOET7 (`)
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