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US office buildings face $117BN debt time bomb: Mortgages due this year threaten to sink US economy as thousands of workplaces remain empty
DAILY MAIL ^ | 1 January 2024 | NIC WHITE

Posted on 01/02/2024 8:05:20 AM PST by george76

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To: elpadre

Instead of reverting to antiquated 1960’s solutions like everyone must be in the office to keep each other company, let people work from home (as long as they are productive) and have the government start dumping the massive amount of real estate it owns or leases.


21 posted on 01/02/2024 9:39:26 AM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: XRdsRev

Will China start buying up these buildings at fire sale prices?


22 posted on 01/02/2024 10:41:34 AM PST by Taylor42 (How can people be so stupid?)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Oh, are you angling for a Cabinet Post in the Biden Administration?

Yes. Not so much for the position and responsibility, but rather for the side benefits (cash, lots of cash) through, umm, side channels, shall we say. I want to get set up for a very comfortable retirement.

23 posted on 01/02/2024 11:07:42 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: XRdsRev

Few people work productively without supervision. Plus the need for teamwork, training, and just plain old brainstorming sessions require being physically present with one another.


24 posted on 01/02/2024 12:03:13 PM PST by elpadre
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To: george76

When offices closed in 2020 I predicted it would take 3 to 5 years to trickle down into this mess.

Banks are going to fail. Let’s just hope they don’t bundle the bad paper into securities like with home mortgages in 2008.

The office building owners should get them rezoned and turn them into apartments or hotels.


25 posted on 01/02/2024 12:14:23 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: Fledermaus
When offices closed in 2020 I predicted it would take 3 to 5 years to trickle down into this mess.

Office leases are 5-10 years, so this time bomb had a lag.

26 posted on 01/02/2024 12:17:51 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Then those taken out 5 to 6 years ago are due.

Yep, it’s going to keep rolling down hill for years.


27 posted on 01/02/2024 12:22:42 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: Fledermaus
it’s going to keep rolling down hill for years.

Ye, each year for the next several years as leases come due corporations will either not renew or they will downsize space considerably.

28 posted on 01/02/2024 12:24:09 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I thought that only worked if you were a Leftist college student with a useless degree?


29 posted on 01/02/2024 12:38:28 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: 1Old Pro

My city went from 25K to 80K in population in the last 25 years and lots and lots of office space went up.

There are millions of unused square footage now. I couldn’t imagine how much in big cities.

People are still coming. They should convert them to apartments.


30 posted on 01/02/2024 12:42:17 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: elpadre

I disagree. It is not 1960, technology allows people to easily communicate, team and monitor/share work.

One thing I noticed about many teleworkers I am involved with is that a lot of them will check emails and work on off hours and they are easy to get a hold of in a pinch because they have their laptops at home. In the old days, forget about getting anything from anybody outside of work hours. Even if they wanted to, very few took their laptops home with them. During COVID our metrics actually improved and I was very grateful to not have to waste numerous hours per week in useless in person meetings and training sessions.

I had several people in my office with commutes over an hour and they have been very grateful for not having to eat up 10+ hours of their lives per week driving to and from work. The employees love the extra time away from the office and from a practical standpoint, each of them essentially got a raise in the form of not having to spend money commuting. For some that is a significant amount of money.


31 posted on 01/02/2024 2:14:48 PM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: Angelino97

Government doesn’t bail out insured accounts, the FDIC does.


32 posted on 01/02/2024 2:37:12 PM PST by Kathy in OC
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To: george76

So much for the soft landing in the market.

Clean up on Wall street.


33 posted on 01/02/2024 3:03:14 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: P.O.E.

Chuckle


34 posted on 01/02/2024 7:36:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: elpadre
A portent of things to come?

Huh?

It should be cheaper for the companies if they work from home.

Less HVAC costs, janitorial, lights and power.

They canNOT blame this on folks working from home!

35 posted on 01/02/2024 7:38:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: george76

Housing for our migrants.


36 posted on 01/02/2024 7:39:43 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fledermaus

Condos for our ‘visitors’.


37 posted on 01/02/2024 7:41:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 1Old Pro

And we’ve been laughing at Chian for overbuilding so much real estate.


38 posted on 01/02/2024 7:41:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fledermaus

Second homes for our new found workers.


39 posted on 01/02/2024 7:42:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kathy in OC

Nope - taxpayers are the source of this bailing out stuff.


40 posted on 01/02/2024 7:43:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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