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US sinks 3 Houthi attack boats as gunmen try to board container ship in Red Sea
TOI ^ | 12/31/2023 | Agencies

Posted on 12/31/2023 5:35:36 AM PST by Pox

US helicopters sank three boats carrying Houthi gunmen who attacked a container ship that was transiting the Red Sea, the US military said Sunday.

A US warship also shot down two ballistic missiles fired from Yemen, the US Central Command (CENTCOM) said in a statement.

It said that at 6:30 a.m. local time, the Maersk Hangzhou, a Singapore-flagged, Denmark-owned and -operated container ship issued a second distress call after earlier reporting that it was hit by a missile.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Yemen
KEYWORDS: freight; houthi; iran; israel; piracy; pirates; redsea; shipping; yemen
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To: Pox

“a significant International problem that demands collective action”

United Nations? United in WHAT?


41 posted on 12/31/2023 6:47:31 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Do we really want china to project i to the red sea to protect chinese goods?

Think about it.. if the U.S. doesnt protect these container ships someone else will step in to do it. Better to pay the bill than let someone else do business in your place.

42 posted on 12/31/2023 6:48:47 AM PST by Ikeon (I stopped going to my family doctor whenever I felt sick. I've never been healthier. .)
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To: Alberta's Child

It’s still global commerce, with the majority of activity still held by the west.


43 posted on 12/31/2023 6:58:30 AM PST by himno hero (had'nff 8)
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To: Pox

Iran will continue to support their proxy terrorists.


44 posted on 12/31/2023 6:58:37 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Make the World Safe for Humanity--Kill the Terrorists)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Yep, then the insurance companies Jack the bill 400% to be passed on to all of us.


45 posted on 12/31/2023 7:02:36 AM PST by himno hero (had'nff 8)
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To: Ikeon
--- "Do we really want china to project i to the red sea to protect chinese goods? Think about it.. if the U.S. doesnt protect these container ships someone else will step in to do it. Better to pay the bill than let someone else do business in your place."

"Think about it." I have, thanks. The European Union, of which Denmark is a member, is 450 million people, while the US is 335 million, more or less. The A.P. Møller – Mærsk A/S company is European conglomerate.

Mærsk says quite specifically: "Increasing complexity in global supply chains is making them inefficient, vulnerable and unsustainable. At Maersk, our strategic vision is to become the Global Integrator, offering truly integrated logistics solutions that connect, protect and simplify our customers’ supply chains."

Source: https://www.maersk.com/about

Mærsk does not say, but means, "our strategic vision is" to have someone else pay for -- "protect" -- our strategic vision.

Posit China replacing CENTCOM? That's one alternative among many. Here's another. The European Union replaces CENTCOM. Or at least does the actual military confrontation with US backup. But when the UN Navy provides the "muscle," and Europe is the backup, Mærsk is chuckling all the way to their Danish bank....

All around the world, taxpayers pay for their local police. Mostly around the world, American taxpayers are paying for many other nations' police, one way or another. And we're not actually paying the bill, but putting it on our nations credit card, which is shortly tipping over into $34 trillion in debt.

Personally, I'd like to see the Danish military fly their helicopters to confront the "boats." Or at least, the EU's military, of which the Danes are a part.

46 posted on 12/31/2023 7:03:34 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Alberta's Child

USN has been the de facto police force of the high seas and shipping lanes since the end of ww2.


47 posted on 12/31/2023 7:05:45 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: All

Why are American taxpayers paying tens of millions of dollars to protect foreign flagged vessels?


48 posted on 12/31/2023 7:08:38 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: Diogenesis

killing the crews


this could be the start of a genocide as there are only 2,000 Hooties.


49 posted on 12/31/2023 7:13:55 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Alberta's Child

These aren’t American cargo ships.

The US only has a handful of ships.

99.99% of all the goods that come to the US are by container ships owned by various non-American shipping companies. one of the biggest is COSCO, owned by the CCP.


50 posted on 12/31/2023 7:18:06 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Why would the U.S. even care?”

America has been at war against Muslim pirates since 1783.


51 posted on 12/31/2023 7:18:33 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Alberta's Child

IIRC-—There are a couple of CHOKE POINTS in that area, which if a large ship got SUNK-—would STOP all of that shipping route.


52 posted on 12/31/2023 7:20:03 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

The USN mission statement does support freedom of the seas. As a USN veteran, I can assure you that one of the primary missions is keeping the seas open and free.

Mission Statement

The United States is a maritime nation, and the U.S. Navy protects America at sea. Alongside our allies and partners, we defend freedom, preserve economic prosperity, and keep the seas open and free. Our nation is engaged in long-term competition. To defend American interests around the globe, the U.S. Navy must remain prepared to execute our timeless role, as directed by Congress and the President.

https://www.navy.mil/About/Mission/


53 posted on 12/31/2023 7:21:02 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Freedom of navigation is in our strategic national interests. It is part of the USN’s mission statement.

The mission of the Navy is to maintain, train and equip combat-ready naval forces capable of winning wars, deterring aggression and maintaining freedom of the seas.

Exactly. The US cannot survive without international trade. We consume a lot of stuff we do not produce here. It's been that way since our founding.

54 posted on 12/31/2023 7:21:39 AM PST by Blennos ( Byaasea)
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To: marktwain
Because the world economy is supported by Pax Americana?

The world economy would be just fine without the delusions of grandeur espoused by some in the United States.

This is about the US protecting its racket, specifically the petro-dollar.

55 posted on 12/31/2023 7:23:05 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

That’s exactly right. I haven’t even started reading the rest of the thread after your post, but I’m certain it will be littered with globalist slop.


56 posted on 12/31/2023 7:29:58 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: kabar
Freedom of navigation for American vessels is in our strategic national interest.

Anyone who thinks it’s a strategic national interest for the U.S. to protect a Danish ship flying a flag of Singapore belongs in the same bathhouse as Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham.

57 posted on 12/31/2023 7:33:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: marktwain

Is marktwain the screen name for Lindsey Graham or Nikki Haley?


58 posted on 12/31/2023 7:34:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: kabar
--- "...To defend American interests...."

I did read the USN statement, having cited it to you when you first had cited the US Coast Guard statement. The nub of the issue is "American interests." Not all agree on what the phrase means, and how far into the world it extends.

As USN, that's great for you. I was a US Army type; great for me. Our 'credentials' have nothing to do with the issue. The issue is the question: who pays?

Specifically in this thread and case about Mærsk, who pays for the Mærsk announced "strategic vision" to "protect." Their actual stance is not their statement. Their actual stance is in large part, the US pays. And as a supposed part of CENTCOM, we are the front line folks, not the Europeans whose "action" is generally missing in these news items.

Unanswered: 1) From which country was this Mærsk cargo loaded? 2) To which country is the Mærsk cargo destined? 3) Where are the other European nations in this "action?" the first two remain not answered, while the last question about the Europeans is, as so often, "behind us."

59 posted on 12/31/2023 7:35:02 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: MeganC
In 1783, America was protecting AMERICAN shipping interests.

If President Thomas Jefferson had dispatched the U.S. Navy to the Mediterranean Sea and landed the Marines in Tripoli to protect Danish ships operating under the flag of Singapore transporting cargo from Asia to Europe, he would have been set on fire on the front lawn of Monticello.

60 posted on 12/31/2023 7:47:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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