Posted on 12/19/2023 4:39:33 PM PST by DoodleBob
My mistake.
I transfixed on .00 but not the gauge.
12 gauge will give one nine .33 balls. Full stop.
Not the .410.
Unless they were zombies.
just in case...alternating load...mix buck and bird rounds...
LOVE the KSG.
Go-to for body armor.
This is great. Thank you.
I like the birdshot video.
I like empirical analysis. Steaks, ribs, and chickens are more compelling than gel.
What type of shotgun shells did the military use for clearing buildings in Iraq ?
Hard to imagine a shotgun slug can shoot 100 yds with hardly any type of accuracy. I would think 50yds is about max.
Thanks. I was trying to figure it out for .410 and it didn’t seem to work. I only have a 12-gauge, but I basically always shoot 7 1/2 or 8 shot for dove and quail.
I’m really tempted to get a side-by-side, always wanted one, and I might go 20-gauge for that.
That’s it, right there. A nice spread when nervous versus a perfect shot. Buckshot all the way.
Good comparison. Both destructive. I sure would not want to be in the path of either.
I’m learning to shoot a 38 special and my sister has just got one of those mooseburg things...she loves it!!!! I like my revolver. We are in our 70s, female.
Already have a shooting range out back with mtn
We have a trainer; plus look at YouTube a lot. Good info on yt
With good sights a shotgun can place slugs on a 8x11 at a 100 with out trouble.
Done it many times.
For in-home defense, where the risk of over penetration is heightened, and the need for stopping power is also high, bird shot makes a lot of sense.
The birdshot video in E Pluribus’ post has the added benefit of a wallboard backstop, to assess the possibility of hitting loved ones on the other side of the wall.
And as you note, the bad Guy likely won’t be home for Christmas.
I don’t keep a round in the chamber as I think racking it will deter most half-sane people.
#4 buck really lack penetration over 20 yards.
Having seen thousands of rounds of buck fired I prefer 00 out of a tighter choke.
The .410 offers a solid slug and two .36” balls per round in a 2 1/2” shell... I’m still looking for a self-defense round in .410 gauge, that is 3” in length.
Between the two, only the slug at 1800fps or better can kill a person wearing body armor. No need to penetrate. The energy released turns internal organs into pudding.
All that technical and scientific info is wonderful, of course. But, I come from the old school. As a LEO, back in the day, we carried Winchester 12-ga Shotguns in our cruisers, in quick access mounts, next to the console. I took my home load from that installation...
My Mossberg 500 home defense shotgun is loaded, alternating double ought (00) and deer slug, with a deer slug out first.
Just makes sense. No need to over think it.
It has served me well.
For a .410 shell, buckshot is 3 pellets of 000 buckshot. That is what you would be able to shoot in a Taurus Judge. They do not get much velocity in a revolver barrel and since the .36 diameter pellets are going down a .452 barrel they do not tend to have good accuracy or tight patterns.
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