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To: ifinnegan
"Yes. I read the ruling after I posted to you and this is still the primary. What struck me was that the earlier ruling did not matter and they plan to keep him off, despite the initial ruling, which was my point initially but they did it via appeal."

One, you didn't address the fact you didn't say anything about an appeal in #7. Two, you're still not getting it right, because Wallace's ruling does matter. This is important to understand.

Wallace's ruling was dispositive of both the primary and the general election ballot. Just because her Order mentions the primary doesn't mean it obtains to just the primary ballot.

They held a trial. Wallace ruled Trump can appear on the ballot. If CREW or a different Plaintiff had simply refiled to block Trump from the Colorado general election ballot, Wallace's ruling would have estopped anyone from pursuing the same course of action for the general election. Period.

CREW's lawyers understand that was a dead end, so instead they appealed.

SCOTUS, or more to the point Alito, now must consider a range of options:

I literally cannot make it any clearer than that. If you think something here is a 'gotcha' a week or a month or a year down the road, all I can tell you is that Freepers can read, and they can see you were on the short end of this exchange. Hey, no malice...

226 posted on 12/20/2023 2:19:49 PM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: StAnDeliver
No less than Noah Feldman, Harvard's self-aggrandizing neocon-turned-neomarxist Harvard Law professor, directly stated that President Trump's actions on J6 did not rise to insurrection.

Not only that, but Feldman dictates that "banning Trump from running for office again in the future...would take a separate vote apart from the impeachment vote", thusly correctly corroborating that any ANY attempt to create a Bill of Attainder on a former President of the United States would require Congress to create a judicial 'court' for that very purpose; then said creation would have to survive a constitutional challenge that in all likelihood would revoke any such 'court' on the basis of that function already reserved for the Senate; and then said judicial 'court' actually find President Trump guilty of insurrection.

Last time I checked, this Congress is somewhat in the control of the GOP and will be until after Inauguration Day 2025.

“He's [President Trump] calling for a protest march on the Capitol and that's perfectly lawful and constitutionally protected, in fact,” [Feldman] says. “Similarly, when the President spoke later and told his supporters to go home while telling them that he loved them and that the election was being stolen, he was pretty careful not to use words that directed imminent lawless action... proving incitement in a court of law would be difficult, he says.

"What matters most for those who support impeachment and seek “long-term consequences” is banning Trump from running for office again in the future, he says, but it would take a separate vote apart from the impeachment vote."


227 posted on 12/20/2023 2:37:03 PM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: StAnDeliver

You are a bit insufferable.

Reiterating things over and over.

After I said “yes.”

There’s no reason to be so confrontational.

My point stands. It was not over.

And I noted they were doing it via appeal, which you reiterate here in this post.

I was right it was not over in the initial dispositive decision.

Your Megan points are appreciated and good. But somewhat beside the point in terms of political machinations.

“ I literally cannot make it any clearer than that.”

You’re not a particularly good writer.

Stink bait being a highly specific legal term.

I think you can add a lot if you get off your high horse.


228 posted on 12/20/2023 2:48:15 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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