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Nearly Everyone Gets A’s at Yale. Does That Cheapen the Grade?
NYTimes(paywall) ^ | 12/08/2023

Posted on 12/08/2023 2:05:05 PM PST by devane617

Nearly 80 percent of all grades given to undergraduates at Yale last academic year were A’s or A minuses, part of a sharp increase that began during the coronavirus pandemic and appears to have stuck, according to a new report.

The mean grade point average was 3.7 out of 4.0, also an increase over prepandemic years.

The findings have frustrated some students, alumni and professors. What does excellence mean at Yale, they wonder, if most students get the equivalent of “excellent” in almost every class?

“When we act as though virtually everything that gets turned in is some kind of A — where A is supposedly meaning ‘excellent work’ — we are simply being dishonest to our students,” said Shelly Kagan, a Yale philosophy professor known for being a tough grader.

The trend has scrambled the very meaning of grades themselves, he said. Students no longer think B means “good.” An A is the new normal.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: edumycation
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Paywall, sorry. I am going to write Yale a letter explaining that I need a degree and please put it the mail asap.
1 posted on 12/08/2023 2:05:05 PM PST by devane617
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they get what they pay for...


2 posted on 12/08/2023 2:06:00 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Probably started when GW was there because he was too stupid to pass


3 posted on 12/08/2023 2:07:29 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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“..Probably started when GW was there because he was too stupid to pass...”

ROTFLMAO!!!
Somewhere, I do believe there’s an “element of truth” in there.....


4 posted on 12/08/2023 2:10:30 PM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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$80K a year for a propaganda reinforced daycare for adults?

The argument could easily be made that anyone stupid enough to attend college is a bad risk on every level.

5 posted on 12/08/2023 2:10:41 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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Grades don’t matter.

Being admitted to Yale and graduating from Yale signals that you are Regime compliant and a Globohomo loyalist.

That’s the value.

It is for people who want to join the leadership elite of the USA.


6 posted on 12/08/2023 2:12:02 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: devane617

No. In the circles where it carries weight, it still carries weight.


7 posted on 12/08/2023 2:12:47 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: devane617

Two weeks to flatten the curve!


8 posted on 12/08/2023 2:25:13 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: NWFree

Probably started when GW was there because he was too stupid to pass


GWB may well have screwed up as a President, but do you think that ‘stupid’ men can fly single-seat fighter jets?


9 posted on 12/08/2023 2:27:01 PM PST by hanamizu ( )
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Our daughter goes to Private High School.
She recently showed me her midterm report card.
Her worst grade was English 3.

I immediately said English 3?
She said the teacher is new.
I completely accepted that.
Her English is way above 3.


10 posted on 12/08/2023 2:27:58 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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Worked at a placement firm (head-hunter) about 25 years ago, interviewed 2 people from Yale, dumb as rocks.


11 posted on 12/08/2023 2:29:12 PM PST by Jolla
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To: devane617

Full article:
https://archive.ph/Vavim


12 posted on 12/08/2023 2:31:03 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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Seems almost like having a sheep skin from any of the ivy league schools any more only means you have a sheep skin from an ivy league school. i.e. joy reid. Just sayin’.


13 posted on 12/08/2023 2:33:14 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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Kids don’t get sent there to learn ... they get sent to make connections ...


14 posted on 12/08/2023 2:43:02 PM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: hanamizu

Then it was still a meritocracy. God help us now.


15 posted on 12/08/2023 2:45:04 PM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: devane617

Yay for A’s.


16 posted on 12/08/2023 2:46:04 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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Nearly Everyone Gets A’s at Yale

Canada speak not grades


17 posted on 12/08/2023 2:48:27 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: devane617

Keeps the parents sending in the tuition money.


18 posted on 12/08/2023 2:56:13 PM PST by Mashood
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The value of any Ivy education is devalued because the students have been dumbed down by lower admission standards

Back in the day, it was totally normal for a large percentage of Yale students to get As because a pretty large percentage of them had never gotten anything less than an A in their lives.

When you have an entire class with a history of GPA above 4 it’s not unusual to have a high percentage of A grades

Nowadays it’s a lot different because of the admission standards that emphasized diversity and affirmative action admits do 80% A is grade inflation.

FWIW, rumor has it that when Chelsea Clinton was at Stanford, the liberal Democrat profs were falling all over themselves at competing to see how much favoritism they could give her


19 posted on 12/08/2023 2:59:18 PM PST by rdcbn1
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To: bankwalker

Yup!


20 posted on 12/08/2023 3:10:20 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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