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Victor Davis Hanson: How Were the Universities Lost?
American Greatness ^ | 7 Dec, 2023 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/07/2023 5:24:39 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber
People really believed the elites would ever allow institutions to teach the rabble how to improve their station in life.


21 posted on 12/07/2023 6:26:56 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: MtnClimber

The difference between Ivy League Harvard and Penn compared to tech powerhouse MIT is that, at MIT, the few liberal arts majors there are treated as special ed.


22 posted on 12/07/2023 6:26:58 AM PST by chuckee
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To: chuckee

Was definitely true a generation or more back.

It may still be true academically, for all I know, but a lot of social engineering has expanded the liberal ed window there, and the classroom is different from the campus “streets.” MIT used to be hands-off on loud political mouthiness, but now seems to encourage it in the name of DEI.

Still not in the STEM classrooms, AFAIK.


23 posted on 12/07/2023 6:31:52 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: MtnClimber

>>>At the present rate, a Stanford law degree, a Harvard political science major, or a Yale social science BA will soon scare off employers and the general public at large.<<<

VDH’s very insightful writing is a sign of things to come. Are the parents of these worthless students PROUD of them because they are in ivy league colleges? Are they NOT paying attention to their children, or do they just not care?


24 posted on 12/07/2023 6:36:55 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: chuckee

MIT has been infected with wokeness as badly as any Ivy League university. Indeed, the president of MIT was one of the ones who embarrassed herself in Congressional testimony a day or two ago.


25 posted on 12/07/2023 6:49:32 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: MtnClimber

I had the honor of attending VDH lectures when I was a history major at Fresno State. He was a rockstar there and several professors taught there just so they could work with him. VDH was apolitical at that time (late 90s), but I always wonder how much respect he lost from them because of his now-public political views.


26 posted on 12/07/2023 7:12:16 AM PST by San Joaquin
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To: MtnClimber

Our universities were lost when the 1960’s “flower children” took over with their drugs and anything goes society.


27 posted on 12/07/2023 7:13:34 AM PST by kagnew
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To: MtnClimber

If you lived through the 60s and were well-read and watching what was going on, then you watched as the adults who ran the universities were shaping them and breaking them down by using any excuse to change the university in reaction to any sort of pressure from the kids, no matter how transient and trivial.

Reagan had been a campus activist contributing to the college president’s resignation.


28 posted on 12/07/2023 7:16:14 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MtnClimber

Some point to the 1950s with the Beatniks and others to the 1960s with the Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything(S.W.I.N.E.) Al Capp had them pegged in 1966..

https://artanddesigninspiration.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/alcapp-counterculture.jpg


29 posted on 12/07/2023 7:21:40 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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It goes way way back...
In 1938 my grandfather didn’t allow my aunt to attend Columbia University because it was “full of communists.’ He had come from Europe and he knew what he was talking about. He made her go to a Catholic college run by nuns.


30 posted on 12/07/2023 7:28:45 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: texas booster

VDH ping


31 posted on 12/07/2023 7:39:01 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: cuz1961
Just look how fast they took control of the Military academy's and destroyed them .
32 posted on 12/07/2023 7:44:21 AM PST by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: MtnClimber

Vic should go do a little research on Antonio Gramsci.


33 posted on 12/07/2023 7:48:52 AM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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Thank you for referencing that article MtnClimber.

"Victor Davis Hanson: How Were the Universities Lost?"


Post-FDR era, constitutionally clueless, follow the money universities have to comply with unconstitutional federal vote-winning social experiments in order to receive unconstitutional federal funding for various things like research and student loans. Such funding is arguably state revenues, including citizens' wallets, stolen by the feds by means of unconstitutional, post-17th Amendment ratification federal taxes.

The remedy for corrupt state and federal governments is that all Trump-supporting patriots need to primary ASAP all state and federal incumbent lawmakers and executives in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company (and others?).

After all, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.

Exclusive: Marjorie Taylor Greene ‘Dumbfounded’ GOP Colleagues Will Not Call for Biden’s Impeachment! (6.10.23)

Trump supporters need to replace incumbents with patriots who will not only support Trump to finish draining the swamp, but will also support Trump to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).

Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for victim taxpayers of the unconstitutionally big federal government having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.

Finally, consider that corrupt political party and media fuss about "obsolete" electoral college is because the electoral college is the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from establishing a permanent puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.

34 posted on 12/07/2023 7:48:52 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: MtnClimber

How many are foreign born students?


35 posted on 12/07/2023 7:54:35 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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Re: "whites make up 68-70 percent of the general population"

Sorry, Victor, your numbers are WAY out of date.

According to the Census Bureau (probably July 2022), non-Hispanic whites are 59% of the general population.

In addition, the Census Bureau classifies most Middle East and North African immigrants, and European Muslims, as white.

Consequently, European Caucasian whites are just 57%-58% of the USA general population.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045218

36 posted on 12/07/2023 7:59:39 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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Keep in mind all the non-citizens who were in that last census and are now counted.


37 posted on 12/07/2023 8:08:01 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: MtnClimber

This article does not appear to answer the question it sets out to ask.

The Universities were lost over a century ago. This barely seemed to go past 1970.


38 posted on 12/07/2023 8:09:09 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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To: MtnClimber
The Ivy league and their kindred so-called elite campuses may soon go the way of Disney and Bud Light.

I'll believe it when parents refuse to pay for their children to go there next semester.

39 posted on 12/07/2023 8:16:08 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: MtnClimber
Haven't universities always been out of the mainstream and to the left? Even in the middle ages there was a divide between the students and the townies. IIRC, there were riots where townspeople and students fought and many were killed.

If you get a bunch of teenagers who are treated as an elite and are told that they are going to be future masters, they tend to act like it. It mostly delays the maturity adulthood but doesn't withdraw the associated privileges.

40 posted on 12/07/2023 8:17:04 AM PST by Dat
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