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Israel is preparing to flood Hamas tunnels with SEA WATER to flush out terrorists as high-powered pumps are transported into Gaza....
Daily Mail ^ | 12/5/2023 | Perkin Amalauraj

Posted on 12/05/2023 4:38:16 AM PST by caww

The IDF finished building several large seawater pumps around a mile north of the Al-Shati refugee camp in mid-November, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The pumps, at least five of which have been built, can each pump thousands of cubic feet of water from the Mediterranean Sea into the tunnels per hour, which would lead to them flooding in a matter of weeks.

US officials said Israel first informed them of the plans in early November, though they don't know when or even if the Israeli government would carry out the plans.

One source told the newspaper that the plan would take place over several weeks, meaning that Hamas would have enough time to move all the hostages out of the tunnels.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; tunnels
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To: caww

I think they should have done that at the beginning. That would have helped prevent the suffering of those hostages still held, as well as preserving the normal person infrastructure above ground. If they do this now I think the result will be that the ground will be salted because all the cracks in destroyed tunnels will just flood the land with sea water.


41 posted on 12/05/2023 6:15:17 AM PST by BlackAdderess (I might as well be a cat, for all my congressman listens to me. Meow!)
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To: caww

Good, drown those Hamas rats.


42 posted on 12/05/2023 6:18:20 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“A lot depends on percolation and soil mechanics. It could well cause buildings to collapse.”

IDK but isn’t most of that area composed of sandstone, the softest of stone? I know from past reading that at some point water soaked sandstone just starts to crumble.
Flooding the tunnels could make Gaza uninhabitable.


43 posted on 12/05/2023 6:24:59 AM PST by oldvirginian (My pronouns are Your Royal Majesty and Mr Fancy Pants.)
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To: caww

Well, that’s true. But I was assuming the murderers took hostages to bargain for their own prisoners, who are held in Israel.


44 posted on 12/05/2023 6:31:39 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: SMARTY

“Why talk about it? Just DO it!”
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THIS 100% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 12/05/2023 6:43:59 AM PST by bantam
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To: 1Old Pro

Pump the water in, let it do it’s job, then pump the water out!


46 posted on 12/05/2023 6:45:34 AM PST by bantam
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To: SMARTY
Well, that’s true. But I was assuming the murderers took hostages to bargain for their own prisoners, who are held in Israel.

As good a reason for the IDF to take no prisoners as any...

47 posted on 12/05/2023 6:46:04 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: bantam

Why not just leave the water in the tunnels?


48 posted on 12/05/2023 6:47:35 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: oldvirginian
Flooding the tunnels could make Gaza uninhabitable.

What's the downside?

49 posted on 12/05/2023 6:49:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: SMARTY

The key assumption here is whatever Israel does to the tunnels, hostages are going to die and Israel will be blamed for it. Given that, just make those hostages martyrs, build monuments to them for their great sacrifice destroying global terrorism and then flatten Gaza.

Funny how no Arab country is stepping up to take in the Palestinians caught in the cross-fire. Easiest thing would be to move them to Sinai and build them a new country which they can call Palestine. Even better, build it as a green country using only alternative energy sources and materials. Move the UN there and make the new Palestine the green model for all the world to behold.

And on the day of the new countries inception and UN vote, nuke the place from orbit, just to be sure.


50 posted on 12/05/2023 6:54:59 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I AM A ZIONIST HOODLUM!)
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To: oldvirginian

I am pretty damn near certain of one thing: The IDF has consulted expert civil engineers who understand the geology and soil mechanics of the region far better than almost anyone, like yours truly, speculating on the internet.

But speculation is fun.


51 posted on 12/05/2023 6:57:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: oldvirginian

It looks like the primary rock type isn’t sandstone, it’s the harder conglomerate that they have lining the older tunnels with the masonry you see in images that have later cast concrete reinforcing, with the uniform arches that you see so much in the images. But they say they have destroyed 500 tunnels as of yesterday, and when they show them destroying tunnels on the news it is done by blowing them up.


52 posted on 12/05/2023 7:04:36 AM PST by BlackAdderess (I might as well be a cat, for all my congressman listens to me. Meow!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

The surrounding countries say they don’t want to take Palestinians in because then Israel will take over the land, but that doesn’t really explain why they have failed to take in some of them, as the news says that Gaza is more crowded than New Dehli.


53 posted on 12/05/2023 7:09:03 AM PST by BlackAdderess (I might as well be a cat, for all my congressman listens to me. Meow!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
“Funny how no Arab country is stepping up to take in the Palestinians caught in the cross-fire.”

I don't think the other Arab countries want stateless murderers running around in THEIR countries, either

Depend on it... Hamas and Hezbollah are barely tolerated in the Iraqi and Iranian countries.

If (or, if EVER) the murderers are successful against Israel, maybe the other Arab countries will get off dead center about their sympathies toward Hamas and Hezbollah

54 posted on 12/05/2023 7:10:27 AM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“But speculation is fun.”

Isn’t it though!
When I think about flooding the tunnels in Gaza I see the ground slumping down over a period of years and buildings starting to lean this way and that. This slow destruction gives the populace time to scuttle to safer ground as the buildings slowly reach the tipping point and fall over like Chinese high rises. Children crying and women wailing in the background as men yell and scream. Delicious!

Yes, I’m sure the IDF equivalent of the US Army Corps of Engineers is well aware of the results of flooding the tunnels. It is their bailiwick after all.


55 posted on 12/05/2023 7:12:15 AM PST by oldvirginian (My pronouns are Your Royal Majesty and Mr Fancy Pants.)
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To: oldvirginian

Leaning towers of Gaza.


56 posted on 12/05/2023 7:19:12 AM PST by Sertorius (A hayseed with no Greek and dam^ proud of it)
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To: caww

GOOD.


57 posted on 12/05/2023 7:33:25 AM PST by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: caww

Spectacular idea!


58 posted on 12/05/2023 8:20:39 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I agree, I suspect Hamas has already killed the majority of the remaining hostages. Many probably died from injuries or abuse shortly after 7 October. The ones left will be the bargaining chip to allow some Hamas to escape to Lebanon or Syria. I suspect Israel would agree since they can kill them in either place later. If Hamas surrendered, used hostages for safe passage out of Gaza, it would mean an end to hostilities, the IDF can draw down substantially and get their economy back on track. People forget that Israel can only stay mobilized for a short period of time before it will seriously impact their economy. Hezbollah and Hamas know this.
59 posted on 12/05/2023 8:24:15 AM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me. )
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To: oldvirginian

My former prospective father-in-law was a civil engineer in southeastern Virginia (Virginia Beach). Beautiful area, but all the large buildings sit on piles driven about 300 feet in the ground. I suspect that Gaza would recover, regardless, but hunkering down in tunnels like those is militarily suicidal. All it does is spare you from the immediate effects of artillery and airstrikes. Eventually you have to come up and defend the entrances and ventilation system or die.


60 posted on 12/05/2023 8:35:24 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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