Posted on 12/01/2023 6:35:48 AM PST by RandFan
Lawmakers on the House Judiciary and Intelligence committees are fighting over how to rewrite rules for the government’s chief spying tool before it expires at year’s end.
The House Judiciary Committee insists that Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which allows the government to scoop communications from a wide range of non-American targets abroad, must be fundamentally rewritten to stop a history of abuses that snared Americans.
But the intelligence committee says a total rewrite would undermine the value of the program, which the national security community says is the backbone of U.S. efforts to constrain China, stop fentanyl smuggling cartels and sniff out terrorist attacks.
The issue boiled over this week in a closed-door meeting in a sound-proof room in the basement of the Capitol that had been swept for electronic bugs — known as a sensitive compartmented information facility or SCIF in Washington spy jargon.
“The Intel Committee is supposed to spy on foreigners. The Judiciary Committee has the domestic side of this and this is our jurisdiction,” said Rep. Thomas Massie, Kentucky Republican and a member of Judiciary, as he emerged from the room. “If you want to surveil Americans, that doesn’t belong in the Intel Committee. They have oversight over the CIA and other things that aren’t civilian in nature.”
But intelligence committee members said the Judiciary Committee folks don’t understand “the nuances” of the program and what’s at stake. They said their plan would protect Americans without doing serious damage to the national security abilities of Section 702.
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Evidently FISA isn't doing a good job of what they say they need it for. Thus no reason to keep FISA, certainly not at the detriment of our civil liberties.
Seeing as they only use this against citizens, shut this down. They can watch the terrorist a different way, they don’t seem to use this against foreigners. While we are at it, get rid of the CIA and FBI too.
...to constrain China, stop fentanyl smuggling cartels and sniff out terrorist attacks.
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Sounds like talking points meant to persuade conservatives. Apparently the “intel community” sees conservatives as the main threat to its surveillance powers. Certainly liberals don’t care about the things listed.
Bottom line: They will get their FISA renewal.
Excuse me for asking, as this is a very important issue, but....
Isn’t the judiciary committee supposed to investigate and impeach rogue judges?
And what Obama/Clinton weaponized against Trump in 2015/2016
Why is that tool Massie everywhere all of a sudden?
Fights could break out at PTA meetings if they don’t have the power to spy on these ‘domestic terrorist parents’.
The DC Beltway is shaped like a large toilet bowl. I suggest a repeated flushing.
Call Congress NOW
(202) 224-3121
Tell them your state and zip, they’ll connect you.
MESSAGE -— 54 Bipartisan Lawmakers Urge Speaker Johnson
Not to Slip “Deep State Surveillance Authorization” in Defense Bill
Congress should strip funding from the censorship group, NewsGuard, in the latest National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) since it received a $750,000 taxpayer-funded grant from the Department of Defense.
If a govt organization is suspected of having political bias, that’s unconstitutional.
The US government cannot support that w/ tax dollars.
And this: a very pertinent point regarding the “outsourcing of censorship.”
NDAA SECTION 1532 “That which government is
constitutionally prohibited from doing, it cannot
contract with others to do.”
Congress must make sure that Section 1532 is preserved in the final version of the NDAA.
Dont rewrite - allow it to expire.
REFERENCE-—Section 702 is a key provision of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 that permits the government to conduct targeted surveillance of foreign persons located outside the United States, with the compelled assistance of electronic communication service providers, to acquire foreign intelligence information.
call Congress NOW
MESSAGE-—DO NOT renew 702. Let it expire December 31st, PERIOD. It expires if they do nothing, which is exactly what they need to do.
702 is the most abused section of The Patriot Act (*spit*), allowing the secret spy court (FISA) to allow unlimited spying on anyone the DOJ (FBI) wants without telling anyone. They created giant databases of everything electronic on everyone, and individual agents can go into them and track ex-wives, their neghbors, Presidents (Trump), their families, friends, anyone.
The whole Russia Colusion Hoax was so they could spy on Trump, using 702.
Call them now!
(202) 224-3121
Tell them your state and zip, they’ll connect you.
“...Seeing as they only use this against citizens...”
Not just citizens, but specifically MAGA citizens. You NEVER see those CIA pricks go after democrats.
SHUT IT DOWN! And later, arrest and imprison those CIA scumbags that targeted conservatives. /spit
Need to spy on the Trump campaign, so they won’t drop any of it.
GOP needs to “rewrite” it by defunding and abolishing this needless court that is abused by the DOJ in order to impact elections based on falsifying warrants.
“THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE” INCLUDES TLAIB.....T
LET THAN SINK IN .
lol Massie is a very important person now he is on a lot of influential committees
When that word "nuance" is uttered in DC, it is sure to be followed by a river of unmitigated BS.
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