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To: the OlLine Rebel

>>”Your Hitlery comment shows your denial. Trump LOST the popular vote”

I guess you didn’t get the memo. We elect presidents using the electoral college, not the popular vote. Trump beat Hillary, a much stronger candidate than Biden, in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and Arizona. Trump lost the popular vote because of California. He lost the overall popular vote by just under 3 million, while his deficit in California alone, was 4 million. Trump understood how the electoral system works so didn’t bother to campaign there.

>>”CITIZENS are driven to vote against any Republican. You should be concentrating on that”

I don’t even know what that means. Is that supposed to be an argument against nominating Trump? You bring up citizens who won’t vote for any Republican and yet you ignore the fact that Trump has been more successful than any Republican in recent memory at expanding the base. Trump brought in millions of first time or low turnout voters in both 2016 and 2020. These new voters who rarely if ever voted before didn’t show up because he was a Republican. They showed up because he’s Trump. They don’t show up during off year elections when Trump is not on the ballot, which is a big reason why the Republicans have performed so dismally during mid-terms. If the GOP embraced Trump, they might be able to motivate these new voters to come out and vote in off years, but they don’t call them the stupid party for nothing.

>>”Meanwhile, a narcissistic ass like Trump isn’t winning any friends, but burning bridges”

And what do you base that on? Your own feelings about him? Have you not been paying attention to the large movement of African-Americans and Hispanics towards Trump? Trump is polling with both groups at numbers never seen before from a Republican. That’s a game changer. A mere 10% shift in these two groups to Trump is enough to seal Biden’s fate. It’s the difference between a Trump victory margin that can be negated by fraud, and one that likely can’t. The new minority Trump voters aren’t voting for the Republican party. If, for some reason, Trump ended up not being the Republican candidate, whoever takes his place won’t be getting those voters.


422 posted on 12/01/2023 8:44:26 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: mbrfl
The new minority Trump voters aren’t voting for the Republican party. If, for some reason, Trump ended up not being the Republican candidate, whoever takes his place won’t be getting those voters.

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Nor my vote. I will be voting for Trump even if he is incarcerated, deceased or somehow denied access to the ballot. (I know how to write his name.)

The GOPe is living in fantasyland if they think they have any future outside of being the TRUMP PARTY.

We've seen a true America-first candidate and President, and will not be fooled again.

435 posted on 12/01/2023 2:00:04 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian (Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes.)
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To: mbrfl

Sigh.

You people insist on how hugely popular Trump is, then when he failed to win a pop vote, you finally realize the electoral is how it works and sputter about that. You talk endlessly that Trump must be the most popular guy in history, but don’t like when it’s pointed out that he did not win the pop in 16.

That is the point.

He is NOT truly fraud-proof popular enough to guarantee any win, even if there was no fraud.

You all treat it like it’s a slam dunk, and cite all these polls that are nationwide (mostly primary) rather than more meaningful to reflect the reality of electoral system.

You will fail if you refuse to see reality, that Trump is only a cult phenomenon with some conservatives, and does not curry advantage for the general. Some conservatives kiss his butt, but all Dems hate him (hint: it’s not because he’s a super conservative). The overwhelming motivation of the latter will bring him down.


441 posted on 12/01/2023 2:38:18 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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