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LIVE! DeSantis vs. Newsom
Fox News ^ | November 30, 2023 | FreeRepublic

Posted on 11/30/2023 6:07:36 PM PST by Reno89519

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To: Bon of Babble
I also have immediate family in San Francisco so I am there a lot - entire aisles of supermarkets are behind plexiglass and under lock and key.

The fact Newsom though he could pull off his lies about California tells us he's used to 100% support from the liars in the press and the goons and thugs from the CIA and FBI backing up his BS.

401 posted on 12/01/2023 6:10:14 AM PST by GOPJ (...President of the United States is a...controlled asset of the Chinese Communist Party. Sam Faddis)
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To: Continuty122

You call it worship. I call it full support for a President under massive fire from the MSM, RINO and Democrats doing anything/everything to destroy his administration (and the country with it, if that’s what it takes). It started in earnest the day he rode down the elevator after the election in 2016 and has not stopped.

But what I see in your posts to me is a harsh, anti-support tinge. Be happy with DeSantis or whoever you’re pushing here. They won’t be in the mix after the RNC Convention.


402 posted on 12/01/2023 6:13:41 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Continuty122
"I just hate seeing people crap on DeSantis because he is a truly good man with good ideals."

You consider someone by the name of DeSantis, that uses their party's majority in the State Legislature to change the Sunshine Laws, to hide his past, present, and future travel records from scrutiny by the people of Florida, as a person with "good ideals"? How about a chump named DeSantis that gets that same State Legislature majority to change the State Law so he doesn't have to resign to run for another office? The only other Florida Governor that did that in recent memory was Rino Charlie Crist. Rick Scott, showing actual "good ideals," had the Law reinstated to its original form.

I have a difficult time understanding how a politician from either party, who uses their party's majority to change laws that benefit themself both politically, and monetarily, as having "good ideals."

DeSantis is his own worst enemy.

403 posted on 12/01/2023 6:32:59 AM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

My understanding is the “sunshine” election laws are commmonly changed back and forth.

I don’t consider this that big a deal anyway, because many states don’t bother with such a thing. And I don’t consider it terrible that my governor might want to run for president.

You’re apparently pinning all your attempts to call Ron bad on whether he was allowed to run for president. Pretty sad.


404 posted on 12/01/2023 6:39:31 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Continuty122

The EverTrumper sycophants think Trump is strong because they think hurling off public insults is “tough”.


405 posted on 12/01/2023 6:42:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Continuty122
IT’s just that people like Trump cause he pisses off the left, it’s not ‘reality’.

No, they liked Trump because he can't be bought off by the establishment.

Did you see how Elon Musk told Bob Iger to Eff off to Disney's advertising "blackmail?" That's because Musk has the same thing Trump has -- more money than most people and the freedom to be his own person.

The one thing keeping Musk from getting the lawfare treatment is that he can't try to take over the federal government like Trump did.

-PJ

406 posted on 12/01/2023 6:52:11 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Continuty122
Can you guys name anything that Trump is to the right on over DeSantis? Isn’t this site supposed to be about that?

According to the Free Republic home page, "this site is supposed to be about:"

one of the earliest and largest online gathering places for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.

The question is not who is more to the right of whom, it is about who can further "working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption" and "champion causes which further conservatism in America."

Do you believe that Donald Trump has done all of those things? Do you believe that Donald Trump was targeted by the Deep State because he was doing all those things?

Do you believe that Ron DeSantis, at this time, is in a better position to continue doing those things than Donald Trump? Do you believe that Ron DeSantis, at some time in the future, would be in a better position to do those things than he is now?

-PJ

407 posted on 12/01/2023 7:01:14 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too
I wish DeSantis had stayed in Florida, finished his term in 2026, and joined the Trump administration after that as a prelude to his own run in 2028. But that didn't happen.

How has it worked out for those that joined the Trump organization previously?

408 posted on 12/01/2023 7:03:40 AM PST by Jersey Jim (From the free state of Florida)
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To: mbrfl

You guys and your go-to excuse for Trump. As sure as the sun rises ever day.

You refuse to realize how communist this country has become. You’re in complete denial. The citizens are half communist. Yes, it is that bad.

It COULD be that Dem commies cheated, but honestly, they don’t have to. You better get hip to the fact that half of Americans hate this country and are natural traitors who will go communist happily.

Your Hitlery comment shows your denial. Trump LOST the popular vote. He got lucky and won the electoral. This is like Bush in 2000.

These alone should indicate how far to the left we are.

Even if Trump was defrauded, he was clearly not popular enough to overcome sneaky fraud. So basically, he lost both elections, as far as popular vote was concerned.

CITIZENS are driven to vote against any Republican. You should be concentrating on that rather than hoping it was all fake. Concentrate on the cultural and moral issues that make people hate their own country.

Meanwhile, a narcissistic ass like Trump isn’t winning any friends, but burning bridges and motivating said communists to run out and vote even for the doddering old fool.


409 posted on 12/01/2023 7:03:56 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Unfortunately for you, most of the people FOX gathered to salivate over the Meatball do not agree.

https://rumble.com/v3yy31h-fox-sends-crew-to-georgia-diner-for-desantis-newsom-debate-entire-diner-is-.html


410 posted on 12/01/2023 7:07:03 AM PST by dforest
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To: Eleutheria5

Someone should ask Newsom, how much he spent for his hair salon visit


411 posted on 12/01/2023 7:18:10 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: dforest

that’s your evidence?

Try living in the real world sometime. It’s nice to be in your cushy conservative areas. Try living with DC worker foreigners who all worship government and assume they can easily do their liberal virtue-signaling including spouting off at the water cooler with no blowback.

You expect a few people in a single diner in GA means it’s going to all be Trump. ROFL.

DENIAL.


412 posted on 12/01/2023 7:20:29 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jersey Jim
How has it worked out for those that joined the Trump organization previously?

That depends on the case. Whom do you have in mind?

Jeff Sessions (AG)? He wimped out.

Rex Tillerson (State)? Trump was leveraging his oil and gas experience, but Tillerson began undermining Trump.

Reince Priebus (Chief of Staff)? He personified establishment GOP.

John Kelly (Homeland/Chief of Staff)?

James Mattis (Defense)?

Kellyanne Conway (Advisor)?

Someone else?

-PJ

413 posted on 12/01/2023 7:22:31 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: the OlLine Rebel

It is because these people were gathered to be Meatball lovers.

If RD Sis such a big thing, why is he doing so poorly? Anyone can look good debating Nuisance.


414 posted on 12/01/2023 7:26:21 AM PST by dforest
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To: Responsibility2nd
Three Blow-hards talking over each other all the time. I can’t watch this.

Noticed that right away, the train derailed in the first few minutes and degraded into a shouting match. When you say each person gets 60 seconds, give the 60 uninterrupted seconds PLEASE.

415 posted on 12/01/2023 7:26:50 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I realize you live and work in what’s now basically enemy territory, but that’s no excuse to pooh-pooh (rather caustically, I might add) what other Freepers in real America are thinking and saying about Donald Trump. You hate him. We get it. That position is probably what helps you get along with your neighbors and/or co-workers I guess. Sheesh..


416 posted on 12/01/2023 7:34:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: GOPJ

How many times did DeSantis say “that’s a lie!” to Newsom last night?

I lost count but it had to be at least 20 times.

Newsom didn’t believe and tried to refute and spin the stats Hannity put up - from the CDC, FBI, DOJ, etc.

Hope everyone in America is paying attention to this hypocritical idiot (Newsom) - despite what he mouths, I strongly suspect he IS running a shadow campaign and will be the Dem nominee in 2024.


417 posted on 12/01/2023 7:35:05 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: coalminersson
debate moderators have been very disappointing as far back as i can remember./I>

There is NO reason for a debate moderator. The question can be put up on a screen with any data. But here's the important part: Each candidate gets one minute and ALL THE OTHER MICS ARE OFF - thus no interruptions and talking over each other. If you want to refute something, do it during your own time.

418 posted on 12/01/2023 7:40:09 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: thegagline
Hannity lost control from almost the first question.

Yep, just shouting over each other, very poorly done.

419 posted on 12/01/2023 7:43:41 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Political Junkie Too

interesting, nice piece of work.i


420 posted on 12/01/2023 8:32:37 AM PST by coalminersson (since )
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