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Why can Argentina count 25–30 million paper ballots in hours, while blue US swing states take DAYS with machines?
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| November 21, 2023
Posted on 11/20/2023 10:50:18 PM PST by george76
It’s quite astonishing that the United States of America, one of the most powerful nations in the world, struggles to hold streamlined elections. We’ve gone from having election results on the same night or in the early hours to prolonged counts of sketchy ballots behind closed doors, with the winner remaining unknown for days on end. And these types of rinky-dink elections with long “third world” delays are being normalized, but it’s far from normal, and we all know it. This unacceptable stark contrast was glaringly obvious during the recent presidential election in Argentina, where they efficiently tallied 25 to 30 million paper ballots within hours. Meanwhile, certain blue districts in the United States, using machine ballots, take days to count a fraction of that number. How does one reconcile this?
End Wokeness:
Argentina: 25-30 million paper ballots
Maricopa (2020): 1.9 million ballots
Milwaukee (2020): 460k ballots
Detroit (2020): 250k ballots
Fulton (2020): 523k ballots
Explain to me how Argentina hand-counted all of their ballots in a few hours, but the big blue areas in our swing states take several days with machines?
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The voting process in Argentina was streamlined and efficient
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Concerned about the possibility of unreliable elections similar to those in the U.S., officials in Argentina closely monitored the voting process. ..
The vote takes place amid Milei’s allegations of possible electoral fraud, reminiscent of those from Trump and former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro
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Perhaps it’s worth considering the idea of outsourcing our elections to Argentina’s capable hands? That might ensure we learn the results within a day and alleviate concerns about Democrats cheating. What an embarrassment we’ve become.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Georgia; US: Michigan; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: argentina; ballots; brazil; cheating; election; electionday; electionfraud; electionmonth; elections; electoralfraud; fraud; israel; javiermilei; jerusalem; paperballots
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To: Dr. Franklin
Only thing I would say about the 1998/2020 Elections comparison is that 1998 was not a Presidential election year, so totals drop off a LOT.
In 2022, I had a conversation with a registered voter who, after I asked who he was thinking of voting for, said:
“wasn’t Biden elected two years ago? Why is there another election?”
He didn’t look stupid. But he was.
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posted on
11/21/2023 6:42:35 AM PST
by
cookcounty
(Uuuuuuhh.)
To: george76
The answer to the question is simple: because our method allows for election fraud. That’s it, it’s that simple. Just as simply, if we don’t fix this problem before the 2024 election, our country is over. You cannot have a society that is supposed to be governed with the consent of the electorate, if the electorate views are not accurately tabulated. Fraud will destroy any free society, and we are no exception.
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posted on
11/21/2023 7:19:08 AM PST
by
Ancesthntr
(“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: george76
Rigging takes time real votes don’t.
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posted on
11/21/2023 7:44:27 AM PST
by
Vaduz
(....)
To: george76
Because they’re busy programming the “machines” to make sure the Democrats have enough votes to win - you know like the 81 million votes - the most ever - Joe Biden received.
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posted on
11/21/2023 8:08:40 AM PST
by
Bon of Babble
(You Say You Want a Revolution?)
To: george76
Silly question. It takes time to arrive at the correct outcome and bury the evidence.
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posted on
11/21/2023 8:36:30 AM PST
by
sjmjax
To: kiryandil
Argentina should get no more than an Honorable Mention.
India processes 400 million votes in their elections. All voters must have ID. Paper ballots. Blue fingers.
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posted on
11/21/2023 9:07:42 AM PST
by
T. Rustin Noone
(Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
To: george76
To: george76
Take it easy. Running a corrupt fraudulent election takes time.
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posted on
11/21/2023 9:22:57 AM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
To: Flavious_Maximus
94.78 Based on the 688036 people who completed an IQ test at BRGHT, the average IQ of people in Argentina is 94.78.
That is high by today's standards.
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posted on
11/21/2023 9:27:09 AM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
To: george76
EVERYBODY but crooked Blue jurisdictions in the US and corrupt 3rd world shitholes can count the votes accurately within hours. Everybody knows why the former can’t. Its because they don’t want to. They need to to steal elections.
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posted on
11/21/2023 9:56:30 AM PST
by
FLT-bird
To: george76
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posted on
11/21/2023 11:17:20 AM PST
by
Pearfect
To: george76
Because in places like Arizona politico Aholes threaten legal action if anyone tries to bypass the counting machines — which are fixed.
Don’t forget the ones in the northern swing states. They were connected to the WWW — in violation of their instructions and state law.
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posted on
11/21/2023 12:15:41 PM PST
by
bobbo666
(Baizuo, )
To: george76
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posted on
11/21/2023 12:56:33 PM PST
by
Grampa Dave
( A nyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities!!" ~ (Voltaire)!, )
To: cookcounty; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; kiryandil; bert
Only thing I would say about the 1998/2020 Elections comparison is that 1998 was not a Presidential election year, so totals drop off a LOT.
Piton's Analysis of the AZ voter rolls found that there were 166-460k voters which were highly suspicious. These "U" voters were quite "unique" and numbered 463,000. Curiously, they all had unique surnames that were different from all other voters in the state. This is consistent with invented names. So they have no family members that share their surname:
"The U voters are almost like a foreign army. They don’t shoot with bullets but with fraudulent votes. They wait in the wings to be deployed. Imagine if you will that 23 people same age, sex and voting type were going in to vote and that 14 ballots were cast for Candidate A and 9 ballots were Candidate B.You then brought out 5 Phantom Voters from your digital army and had them vote for Candidate B." https://www.scribd.com/document/491822278/12112020-AZ-Legislature-Letter
You can read more at the link, but from the report they arrived for the election in 2000. This is why the comparison with 1998 is used. AZ registered voters increased by 24 percent for the 2000 election, and one third of them were either new or the "U" voters. The reasonable conclusion is that Bush stole AZ in 2000, and that's more obvious than the mess in FL. Social Security was discussed in the 2000 Presidential debates, and senior citizens worried about having their Social Security benefits cut are much more likely to vote for the Democrat in states, like AZ and FL, where large numbers of seniors go to retire.
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posted on
11/21/2023 3:10:35 PM PST
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I’m still suspicious of the notion that W won Florida by cheating. On the other hand, that could explain his fondness for illegal aliens and Mexico’s foreign policy (invasion), if his election was pre-ordained, meaning he need not listen to his base.
The pattern in American politics was that after eight years of relative peace and prosperity, a sitting VP would win. So Adams followed Washington's two terms, Van Buren followed Jackson's two terms. Truman, under different circumstances, followed FDR's three plus terms. None of these VP succesors had the charisma of the former presidents. Then, Nixon and Gore, both failed under similar circumstances in elections marred with allegations of fraud in key states.
I am also aware that Bush Sr. was alleged to have rigged the 1980 Iowa caucuses. On caucus night, Reagan was ahead, but then there was a computer crash, which caused the counting to stop, and Bush eventually won. The polls all had Dole beating Bush in NH in '88. Years ago I read something that Dole won everywhere the votes were hand counted, but Bush won in precincts that phoned their votes in to a central location. I've never read more about that, either proving it or disproving the claim. However, its been noted that behind every Bush win is a stolen election.
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posted on
11/21/2023 3:24:46 PM PST
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: bert
Bitch, bitch, W Bad yada, bitch, yada
Trump has said as much.
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posted on
11/21/2023 3:26:05 PM PST
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: Dr. Franklin
Computers counted Iowa caucus votes in 1980?
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posted on
11/21/2023 3:28:15 PM PST
by
bankwalker
(Repeal the 19th ...)
To: bankwalker
Computers counted Iowa caucus votes in 1980? "The Iowa Republican Party’s computer crashed on Caucus Night back in 1980. George H.W. Bush was declared the winner, but Ronald Reagan’s supporters have long maintained that if all the straw poll ballots had been counted that night, Reagan would have won."
Lawyer examined archives, says Bush definitely won 1980 Iowa Caucuses Remember this was a party run caucus, and not a government run primary election.
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posted on
11/21/2023 3:57:14 PM PST
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: george76
Short answer is we have convoluted garbage like post-election day arrival of ballots in many states, and somehow nearly all of those late votes go Democrat, along with pollworkers not being hired around the clock to continue counting through the night.
We also have provisional balloting since around the 2004 elections, which I think is the biggest culprit of the slowdowns.
There was a universal overreaction to the 2000 election and the closeness of it, and it resulted in a mad rush to make it “easier” for people to vote. So, they invented the provisional ballot and things like same-day voting and no excuse absentee voting/early voting for a month took off like a rocketship.
All of these things advantage the Dim campaigns because of the unions and the easier ability to GOTV in an urban core.
Republicans are always 10 steps behind everything.
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