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AG Garland moved to investigate Joe Biden after classified documents
from his time as Obama’s vice president were found in his possession:
<><> at the U of Pennsylvania “Penn Biden Center” in DC,
<><>on the floor of the garage housing Biden’s vintage car at his Wilmington, Del home,
<><>in CHINATOWN, where boxes moved freely in and out.
<><>at the U of Delaware where Obama and Biden’s presidential/VP papers are held.

NOTE WELL
<><>the Presidential Records Act doesnt cover Biden because he wasn’t President at the time.
<><>Biden, as VP, was NOT entitled to obtain or hold classified US govt documents.
<><>classified documents are only perused in designated govt screening rooms.
<><>holding classified documents on private property is illegal.

Did Obama give US govt documents to VP Biden?
If so, for what reason?
Were Americans’ safety and security undermined?
To what extent?
And why haven’t the presstitutes reported on all of it?


3 posted on 11/16/2023 1:44:06 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Liz

Because they can and did and do.


14 posted on 11/16/2023 2:04:48 PM PST by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: Liz

Did Obama give US govt documents to VP Biden?
If so, for what reason?

He needed a front man to Xi to give data to?.

Amazing how many ideas of the U.S. china has came up with in the last 50 years.


17 posted on 11/16/2023 2:09:33 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: Liz

How do we the people file a citizens arrest on this creepy crook??


21 posted on 11/16/2023 2:16:23 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Liz
Were Americans’ safety and security undermined?
To what extent?

Possibly not, but it's near certain Hunter, James, and Joe's bank accounts were all enhanced.

23 posted on 11/16/2023 2:23:46 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Liz
I did a dig on this:

Biden as VP could restrictively classify and declassify. He was also covered under the Presidential Records Act via Pres. Obama E.O.13489 - year 2009(though it was around in some looser form earlier).
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2009/01/26/E9-1712/presidential-records

then congress codified it
PUBLIC LAW 113–187—NOV. 26, 2014
https://www.congress.gov/113/plaws/publ187/PLAW-113publ187.pdf

2208. Claims of constitutionally based privilege against disclosure.’’.
(4) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in the amendment made by paragraph (2)(C) shall be construed to—
(A) affect the requirement of section 2207 of title 44,United States Code, that Vice Presidential records shall be subject to chapter 22 of that title in the same manner as Presidential records; or
(B) affect any claim of constitutionally based privilege by a President or former President with respect to a Vice Presidential record. "https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/44/chapter-22

Pres. Bush E.O. 13292 was revoked by Pres. Obama's E.O. 13526 - December 29, 2009. I didn't look for the differences.

E.O. 13526 still says VP can classify. Looks like Declassify can be done by VP(and his successor) subject to: stuff.

Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority.
(a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and the Vice President;
(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and
(3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section.
(b) Officials authorized to classify information at a specified level are also authorized to classify information at a lower level.

Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification.

(a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(2) the originator's current successor in function, if that individual has original classification authority;
(3) a supervisory official of either the originator or his or her successor in function, if the supervisory official has original classification authority; or
(4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official of the originating agency.

There are 14 additional Presidential documents that refer to E.O. 13526.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/search?conditions%5Bagencies%5D%5B%5D=executive-office-of-the-president&conditions%5Bterm%5D=13526&conditions%5Btype%5D%5B%5D=PRESDOCU

I didn't check to see if VP can no longer declass.
30 posted on 11/16/2023 2:33:10 PM PST by stylin19a (Back when men cursed & beat the ground with sticks, it was named witchcraft. Today it's named golf.)
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To: Liz

The Presidential Records Act is irrelevant, Trump is not being charged under that act which has no criminal penalties.

Trump is being charged with violations of the Espionage Act of 1917 which is the first time this act has ever been used against an ex President, even though prior to 1976, former Presidents routinely took Presidential records including National Defense Information with them when they left office.

The Espionage Act is of questionable relevance against an ex President who by virtue of their unique office was the highest classification authority in the government and since technically they still retain authorization to access National Defense Information (classified information) after they leave office unless that authorization is rescinded by a later administration. Biden however did not retain or ever have highest classification authority (prior to being elected President) and there seems to be no legal justification for him having classified materials in his possession.


53 posted on 11/16/2023 5:05:11 PM PST by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: Liz

Excellent questions! Of course, we all know why Joetato won’t be prosecuted by the Just-us Department but Donald Trump will be even though he was POTUS, had documents secured and was legally entitled to declassify them.

This should be further ammunition in the Bribe-em impeachment effort but we’ll see where that even goes. I’m not very confident in it all.


59 posted on 11/16/2023 5:26:08 PM PST by boatbums (When you dwell in the shelter of the Most High, you will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. )
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