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Special counsel investigating Joe Biden’s handling of classified material is not expected to bring charges
CNN ^ | November 16, 2023 | Paula Reid

Posted on 11/16/2023 1:41:22 PM PST by Fido969

Special counsel Robert Hur is not expected to charge anyone in connection with the mishandling of classified documents at two locations connected to President Joe Biden, two sources close to the investigation told CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: biden; documents; ssdd
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To: Liz

How do we the people file a citizens arrest on this creepy crook??


21 posted on 11/16/2023 2:16:23 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Fido969

How the F can that be while they prosecute Trump and Biden had the documents in his garage??


22 posted on 11/16/2023 2:22:45 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Liz
Were Americans’ safety and security undermined?
To what extent?

Possibly not, but it's near certain Hunter, James, and Joe's bank accounts were all enhanced.

23 posted on 11/16/2023 2:23:46 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: Fido969

news to some maybe


24 posted on 11/16/2023 2:25:14 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (Wake me up when somebody tells the truth.)
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To: Jane Long

CAUTION A citizen has the right to arrest without a warrant where it appears that a crime had actually been committed, and that there was probable or reasonable cause to fairly suspect the person arrested to be guilty. Brown v. State, 62 N.J.L.


25 posted on 11/16/2023 2:25:20 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Obadiah

Well, the 17 intel agencies, the DHS, DOJ, etc all exist to protect
citizens’ safety and security...........somebody better tell Joe Biden.


26 posted on 11/16/2023 2:29:13 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Fido969
Cue Gomer's SURPRISE,SURPRISE,SURPRISE!
27 posted on 11/16/2023 2:30:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: Banana Republic)
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To: Fido969

This tells me that nothing is going to happen to Trump.

They’re laying off Joe because Joe has agreed to lay off Trump.

Gag order lifted today for example.. seems to be what is happening here.

I think Trump has the goods on a lot of the worst mf’ers in govt, including Plugs and O’Bummer. I suppose I could be wrong, but that is my gut.

We need to forget about impeaching Old Crooked Joe. Even though he’s a fake President, he’ll be voted out fair n square. And the libs will lose it.


28 posted on 11/16/2023 2:32:08 PM PST by bryan999
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To: Jonny7797

And the GOPe will bend over and take it like the good little stooges they are


29 posted on 11/16/2023 2:32:16 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Liz
I did a dig on this:

Biden as VP could restrictively classify and declassify. He was also covered under the Presidential Records Act via Pres. Obama E.O.13489 - year 2009(though it was around in some looser form earlier).
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2009/01/26/E9-1712/presidential-records

then congress codified it
PUBLIC LAW 113–187—NOV. 26, 2014
https://www.congress.gov/113/plaws/publ187/PLAW-113publ187.pdf

2208. Claims of constitutionally based privilege against disclosure.’’.
(4) RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in the amendment made by paragraph (2)(C) shall be construed to—
(A) affect the requirement of section 2207 of title 44,United States Code, that Vice Presidential records shall be subject to chapter 22 of that title in the same manner as Presidential records; or
(B) affect any claim of constitutionally based privilege by a President or former President with respect to a Vice Presidential record. "https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/44/chapter-22

Pres. Bush E.O. 13292 was revoked by Pres. Obama's E.O. 13526 - December 29, 2009. I didn't look for the differences.

E.O. 13526 still says VP can classify. Looks like Declassify can be done by VP(and his successor) subject to: stuff.

Sec. 1.3. Classification Authority.
(a) The authority to classify information originally may be exercised only by:

(1) the President and the Vice President;
(2) agency heads and officials designated by the President; and
(3) United States Government officials delegated this authority pursuant to paragraph (c) of this section.
(b) Officials authorized to classify information at a specified level are also authorized to classify information at a lower level.

Sec. 3.1. Authority for Declassification.

(a) Information shall be declassified as soon as it no longer meets the standards for classification under this order.
(b) Information shall be declassified or downgraded by:
(1) the official who authorized the original classification, if that official is still serving in the same position and has original classification authority;
(2) the originator's current successor in function, if that individual has original classification authority;
(3) a supervisory official of either the originator or his or her successor in function, if the supervisory official has original classification authority; or
(4) officials delegated declassification authority in writing by the agency head or the senior agency official of the originating agency.

There are 14 additional Presidential documents that refer to E.O. 13526.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/search?conditions%5Bagencies%5D%5B%5D=executive-office-of-the-president&conditions%5Bterm%5D=13526&conditions%5Btype%5D%5B%5D=PRESDOCU

I didn't check to see if VP can no longer declass.
30 posted on 11/16/2023 2:33:10 PM PST by stylin19a (Back when men cursed & beat the ground with sticks, it was named witchcraft. Today it's named golf.)
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To: fhayek

Where did the national archive info come from?


31 posted on 11/16/2023 2:35:43 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Trump says it wasn’t a crime. So is it or isn’t it?


32 posted on 11/16/2023 2:36:23 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

Bananas Foster for dessert often.


33 posted on 11/16/2023 2:37:06 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: Blue Highway
Makes for a good story. And if it fits a world view, then by God it has to be the truth.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-aoc-net-worth/fact-check-no-evidence-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-has-a-net-worth-of-29-million-idUSL1N2ZL1O2/

34 posted on 11/16/2023 2:40:21 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: joesbucks

Biden’s “DOJ” says it’s not. You got a problem with that?


35 posted on 11/16/2023 2:42:39 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell)
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To: Fido969

When trump get back in then this Special counsel guy needs to be charged with corruption and obstructing justice.


36 posted on 11/16/2023 2:49:48 PM PST by Revel
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To: stylin19a

usatoday.com

snip

The Washington Post reported vice presidents have the authority to declassify anything THEY classified. The New York Times similarly reported that the vice president has the power to declassify, while noting....... the scope of that authority “has never been definitively tested.”

Materials that could be classified include military plans, foreign government information or scientific, technological or economic matters relating to national security, according to the executive order.

“It is longstanding practice in the executive branch to treat the vice president as having the same amount of authority in that respect as the president....... unless the president explicitly says otherwise,” McClanahan said.

Bradley Moss, a national security attorney at the law office of Mark S. Zaid, PC: “Vice presidents would (also), at least according to the minimal FOIA case law on the subject, be bound by the same declassification procedures that ostensibly apply to a president,” Moss said.

One such procedure includes a vice president having to NOTIFY any agency affected by the declassification of certain material beforehand, according to Neama Rahmani, a former federal prosecutor and president of West Coast Trial Lawyers.

snip


37 posted on 11/16/2023 2:50:51 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Fido969

Of course not.
The double standard is the ONLY standard.
It’s not long before the majority of us no longer respect the law. After then, it’s trouble.


38 posted on 11/16/2023 3:09:45 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: joesbucks

If it was a crime for Trump it should be a crime for Biden..if it was no crime for Biden to have it, the charges against Trump should be dropped


39 posted on 11/16/2023 3:14:54 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Liz

thanx.

Law says VP can be declassified by his successor. VP Biden could declassify VP Cheney’s stuff as well as his own. Does the VP have people who directly report to him that can classify ? If so, then VP Biden could have declassify power over them.

The longstanding practice of VP having same authority as Pres. was codified in 2014.

I wish someone would test some of these laws.
I’m guessing Pres. Trump will now have a better case for dismissal...but not in that RAT Rathole D.C.

Nobody is addressing the fact that Sen. Biden shouldn’t have had classified stuff at home...period.

https://hotair.com/headlines/2023/01/24/bipartisan-senate-confusion-how-did-then-sen-biden-take-classified-material-home-n526041

It’s all a SH*T show


40 posted on 11/16/2023 3:16:37 PM PST by stylin19a (Back when men cursed & beat the ground with sticks, it was named witchcraft. Today it's named golf.)
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