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I just want to be sure I understand the stance both of you appear to take on this.

You both maintain there was no significant election fraud in the 2020 election, and that losses like the 2020 election are due to the fact that Conservatives can't change with the times?

By "change with the times", do you mean that Conservatives should embrace: Vote harvesting?

Three month long election windows?

Un-surveilled drop boxes installed with money from people who want this country to fail such as Zuckerman and Soros?

Universal mail in balloting with no signature matching, identity validation, or chain of custody?

Ranked Choice Voting?

Efforts to automatically register to vote every person who gets a driver's license with no mechanism to verify citizenship?

Completely avoiding or watering down any discussion of Abortion because it is necessary to murder unborn children in order to "change with the times" to win elections?
Are those the things we, as Conservatives, must get on board with?

If you DON'T mean those things, then what kinds of things DO you maintain we need to accept or pursue in order to "change with the times"?

I would really like to hear what kinds of things that we, as Conservatives, need to embrace in order to "change with the times".

Would either of you care to expand on your assertion?

“You both maintain there was no significant election fraud in the 2020 election, and that losses like the 2020 election are due to the fact that Conservatives can’t change with the times?”

I maintain that the culture and societal norms have changed. Boomers and Gen-X are aging out and dying. The Reagan Revolution was in 1980 and lasted until 2008. It’s over now. Millennials and Gen-Z ascendant. Their values are not ours and there are more of them and their numbers are going to continue to increase while ours continue to decrease.

Anti-abortion positions are losing every time they’re on the ballot. Unions are making a comeback. Student loan forgiveness is going to be one of their major issues.
Same with climate change.

Ignore that if it makes you feel better but the GOP has been getting drubbed since 2018.

Culture war issues are a loser. The GOP had their best run by supporting lower taxes, low unemployment, and smaller goverment.

What message does it send to everyone watching that the GOP will not impeach when there is a text book political case in front of them and they refuse to do so? To me the message clear: the GOP is not really a political party in the classic sense. It is just the “not Democrat” coalition of self serving pocket liners.

I just want to be sure I understand the stance ...

No, you don't understand evidenced by your statements posed as questions.

There are not enough Conservatives that vote, whatever conservative means. There are just Democrooks and Publicans, and the Publicans are far superior to the former. It wasn't always that way, but now the leftists have the ascendancy. They must be opposed, but not foolishly. Calling for impeachment without the votes, with (almost) all the media brainwashing the unwashed masses is not a winning approach. Neither is it explained by "stolen election" (which just makes one look silly). California, which voted Republican for decades, is unreachable. That is not a "stolen election." Georgia, Arizona, Virginia, etc. used to be patriotic states. Sure, the Democrooks cheat. They want power at any cost. Unfortunately, crying "stolen election" and promising FR not to vote again (so childish, really) does not solve the problem. People tend to vote for candidates they like, all other things considered.