Posted on 10/30/2023 9:24:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Do you remember all of those times that the Democrats wanted metric buttloads more money for the IRS (along with all of the guns and ammunition) but they assured you little people that you had nothing to worry about because all of these resources would be focused on a couple of hundred billionaires? Yeah… good times. Well, you can toss that story out the window along with much else that the government has “assured” us of. The latest tales from the adventures of the IRS coming out of the investigations of the House Judiciary Committee are simply alarming and they involve regular old working-class people, not just Donald Trump or Elon Musk. It turns out that IRS agents have used fake names when dealing with taxpayers and engaged in tactics that definitely constituted harassment. And some of them break the rules with impunity, potentially even in violation of the law. (Washington Times)
The IRS allows its agents to use fake names when they contact taxpayers, according to a congressional report Friday that found the pseudonyms can create a tense and potentially harassing system.
The House Judiciary Committee documented a case in Ohio where an IRS agent showed up at a taxpayer’s home unannounced, lied about his name and the reason for his visit, refused to leave when told to do so by the woman’s lawyer, threatened to freeze the taxpayer’s assets and then filed a complaint against the police when they responded.
Police found the man’s behavior so strange that they initially concluded he was an impostor. It was only after they contacted the IRS‘ inspector general that they learned the man was a real agent using a fake name, “Agent Bill Haus.”
The example described above involving “Agent Bill Haus,” is even stranger than it first appears. (I assume that was an inside gag. “Bill House” of the IRS. Get it?) The woman who was being harassed turned out to not even owe any money in back taxes. They admitted as much to her after the fact. So what was the purpose of the intrusion? Was it just intimidation for some unstated reason?
While the House is investigating this, I think the public deserves a good, long look at the official IRS operating procedures and policies. Is the use of fake names something they put in writing or just some sort of unofficial “tradition” that developed at the agency over time? How often does it happen? Or, if this office that employed “Bill Haus” was some sort of aberration, was the employee and/or their supervisor terminated?
Underlying all of this is a more fundamental question. Who uses a fake name for any reason whatsoever unless it is with the intent to deceive or cover up the fact that they know they are doing something wrong? Sure, we could make exceptions in the case of spies or various legitimate exercises of espionage. But we’re talking about the Internal Revenue Service. If a taxpayer is contacted by them it’s already a traumatic enough experience. We have a right to know who we are dealing with in case there are any issues or we feel we need to escalate the matter to their superiors. This is completely unacceptable.
If the police or the FBI show up at your door for any reason they are expected to display a badge so they can be identified. (Exceptions are made for emergency response situations, but they will still have to be identified later.) IRS agents are not sent in to resolve hostage situations or stop a killer in their tracks. There is no point at which they should fail to have and produce appropriate, authentic identification and reveal their name. I want to know how deep this story goes and everyone should demand the same.
This is gonna get outta control and we’re gonna hafta kill people.
Dear Lord Jesus, please bless and defend all on FR from the evil one and his servants, and thank You and the Father for Your precious Blood of the ‘Lamb, who takes away the sin of the world.’ now, please, Lord, let the IRS (and all the alphabets) be thwarted in every evil plan they devise, against Your People and Your Church. let their great scourge and burden on the people of America quickly pass away. nevertheless, let the Father’s Will be done always, and in His Son’s Holy Name i continue to ask for relief and protection from this corrupt gov’t that we now have over us. Amen.
Seems the irs believes its a local/state/federal police agency.
The police can lie to you.
Paraphrasing Hunt for Red October... :)
The fake name routine has been the norm for quite some time, but especially since social media has blossomed.
I am in regular communication with many agents who use pseudonyms, especially in collections. Many have shared with me why they had to do it.
Recently an IRS Collections Agent told me of a disgruntled taxpayer who posted pictures of her children and extended family on their own social media as a threat. It really scared her and she then began using a fake name.
I see both sides of this issue, and as a mediator trying to solve taxpayer issues, it’s easy to see that there are a lot of mentally ill taxpayers who reach the point of despair and turn to violence. Especially those who are beings taxed and assets seized for criminal operations revenue.
I’ve handled several IRS criminal cases with CID, and it’s not easy. Yes, the system is open to abuse by agents, and that does happen. However, the IRS has a feedback system to find and correct rogue agents. I was the liason between a large state society of CPA’s and the regional IRS prior to my retirement. To use the Director’s own words to me, “Sometimes our agent’s wander off the farm and we need your help to reel them back inside again.” They monitor for rogue agents and curtail them. I have been involved in several such cases that resulted in termination of both audit and collection agents.
The problem is that right now the IRS got all this money in exchange for not prosecuting Joe and Hunter. That’s why Joe held onto this issue in the recent budget negotiations with McCarthy.
The huge influx of new agents that are untrained will create many problems. IRS staff is right now doubling in size with new green recruits. It’s a confrontation waiting to happen. 😥
Yes, under Biden, the down economy has resulted in a huge drop in tac revenue.
They haven’t talked about it in the news, but the 2023 tax revenue dropped somewhere between $500 billion to $1 trillion from 2022 tax revenue, depending upon which fake numbers Treasury uses this week. It’s so bad that Treasury reports on their website contradict themselves in the same report. Thankfully, I’ve done screenshots or I would have thought I was imagining this chaos of lies.
Yeah. One of my favorites.
Never thought I’d miss the Cold War days.
After we lost our focus on a common, foreign enemy, everything’s about gone to Hell.
Bookmark.
Thanks for posting.
The government can KMA. They want unfettered tyranny without consequences.
Everyone thinks the russians changed here after 1991.
They didn’t. The soviet mindset didn’t change. The country is still oligarchy socialist. Soviets don’t just changle their entire belief system because of a name change.
People were idealistically naive to fall for it.
I know they didn’t change.
I’ve worked with several.
Some who got out before the wall came down...
Others who came afterward.
I’ve met “the Soviet mindset,” and Ivan Ivanovich never had any real taste for world domination.
The working stiffs wanted Russia First, not Russia Only.
They wanted Levis, an Atari, and a Big Mac.
Trouble was rarely the common people; always their leaders, and most of them were only posturing for the rest of them.
Only a few nutters were really True Believers.
Same as us.
I knew the whole damned time all the pearl-clutching about getting nuked was bullshit. Hollywood notwithstanding, Soviet rank-and-file military weren’t interested in getting fried just to prove a point for the Politburo.
Besides, Russians are of a more Western, civilized mindset; they’re not prone to cold utilitarianism like men raised with Eastern philosophy: China, the Norks...
If the ol’ CCCP had been full of Chinese...THEN we’d have really had our butts puckered.
If they’d have been Islamic, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Some idiot in 1980 blabbing about how Reagan — “That gunslingin’ cowboy” as he called him — was gonna get us into a shooting war with the Soviets.
Reagan was maybe the ONLY leader in Washington who WOULDN’T.
Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, Gorbachev — not a real zealot among them; they didn’t have their hearts set on dying.
Not like this Middle Eastern lot.
They’re a whole ‘nother level of berserk.
But the disintegration of the American ethos is spawning loons domestically. Our agencies are getting a little too loose in the hinges. They’re beginning to think they can take liberties, and in several cases they have. The J6 smirking chimp trials seem to have really energized them as to what they may be able to get away with.
About all a man can do is make money and spend money.
Keep quiet and look sharp.
Work your Mozambique pattern to the point of muscle memory.
Hope you never need it, but answer decisively if the call comes.
I think most folks get the concept of using fake names for agents dealing directly with the public as a protective measure.
The more interesting angle is why do we need such protection to begin with?
People attack the government when they are threatened by it. In the early US history, there wasn’t any need for this and not even secret service.
But “elections having consequences” didn’t mean one administration vs another would completely destroy your life. Nor was there rampant “confiscatory” taxes.
Just look at the difference between Trump and Biden.
The real problem is, it’s only going to get worse.
Oh, I think it will get next-level crazy. I think the new people will be drawn from the CRT crowd, and will see their mission as being to take down the whole "Trumpist" movement.
Visualize an IRS dominated by what you used to call rogue agents.
Out of fear from later intimidation, will it also be acceptable for me to use a fake name when communicating with an IRS agent?
EC
Indeed. There are, in fact, numerous legitimate reasons to use a pseudonym.
NONE of them apply to IRS agents acting in their official capacity as public “servants”.
So ... due to threats to We the People from IRS thugs, do IRS-facing Citizens get to use a "Stage Name"?
We're not allowed to lie to them ... fair enough. Allowing them to lie to us is intolerable and must end.
Thank you very much!!
Thanks for giving it the ol’ college try, but you can’t polish a turd.
Our government owes We the People, who pay their salaries, honesty and transparency. The IRS is the very opposite of honesty and transparency.
fair tax. get rid of irs completely
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