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To: Sacajaweau

No, Jesus was killed to pay for our sins. Sin demands punishment; God has always said so. But the Good News is that God Himself — Jesus Christ — willingly took that punishment onto Himself. No one could have killed Him had He not allowed it, as He Himself said (John 10:18).


8 posted on 10/28/2023 12:51:12 PM PDT by Ray Lomas
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To: Ray Lomas

Sacajawea’s comment was about the reasoning of the killers, not about God’s purposes. The people’s motivation in killing Jesus wasn’t to facilitate Him paying for our sins, they wanted Him dead to shut Him up because they viewed Him as a popular figure and a heretic who was a threat to their power and status quo.


10 posted on 10/28/2023 1:33:09 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ray Lomas
Oh, please! Spare us the sanctimonious demonstration of your biblical piety - Jesus did die for our sins, but the Sanhedrin and the Romans did kill him to shut him up.

Didn't work - but that was their motivation.

11 posted on 10/28/2023 1:33:34 PM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Ray Lomas; Sacajaweau
>> ...Jesus was killed to shut him up.

> No, Jesus was killed to pay for our sins.

BOTH are true.

Those who killed Him were not Christians, they did not believe in Him, they didn't know about much less accept and believe, that His death would pay for our sins. We know that; the Establishment of the time did not.

On the contrary, the Establishment killed Him for what He said (His teachings), and the existential threat He posed to the Establishment of the time.

12 posted on 10/28/2023 1:42:52 PM PDT by dayglored (Strange Women Lying In Ponds Distributing Swords! Arthur Pendragon in 2024)
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To: Ray Lomas; All

Jesus last statement on the cross was to the Father God:

Unto Thee I commend my Spirit.

No one killed Him, He gave up His life for our sins.

For the sins of the world.


32 posted on 10/31/2023 12:23:07 AM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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